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Why are churches tax exempt? I don't need to hear about government taking over religion. I need to know HOW they get away with this?

Posted - March 20, 2018

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  • 5354
    The official reason in the US is that churches are 'Pro Bono' organizations that benefit society.
    alas, by the first amendmend governmen is NOT allowed to discriminate. it must accept ANY congregation of ANY religion as 'a church', With the sole exception being those that can be proven to be founded for the sole purpose of aiding, organizing and performing activities that are deemed criminal by the law (that is a near impossible thing to prove, but it has happened).
    There is a fairly good article about it here:
    https://www.focusonthefamily.com/socialissues/religious-freedom/religious-freedom-after-the-obergefell-decision/why-are-churches-and-religious-organizations-tax-exempt
      March 21, 2018 2:15 AM MDT
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  • 6023
    So technically ... those churches that are in the media proclaiming they will shelter illegals, could have their tax-exempt status revoked.
      March 21, 2018 3:48 PM MDT
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  • 46117
    That is a separate issue.  I don't care what their reasons are.  They need to pay taxes like everyone else.  Period.

    Housing illegals or whatever you think you are charging them with, is an issue that can be dealt with by asking for donations for whatever cause they claim.  The people in the congregation who donate financially can claim the deductions on THEIR taxes.

    You don't get to ride the wave for free just because you have a specific take on God that other people agree with.   Billions are just excused.  We need the money.  They don't.  They don't do anything with it.

    Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's and to God the things that are God's.


    This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at March 22, 2018 3:12 AM MDT
      March 21, 2018 6:58 PM MDT
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  • 6023

    I believe it's also a holdover from medieval times.
    The kings seldom taxed over 10% ... because if 10% was good enough for god, who were they to ask for more?
    (too bad government doesn't think that way, any more.  LOL)

    I've also pointed out in the past, that if churches were using all that money for "good works" they wouldn't have multi-million-dollar buildings.  How many people could have been helped by the funds that went into building the Crystal Cathedral, for instance?
    I mean, they are spending 6 years and $2million to renovate the organ.

    btw - one of my favorite songs is Ray Stevens' "Would Jesus Wear a Rolex".

      March 22, 2018 7:16 AM MDT
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  • 7280
    JacobA did cite the basic reason:  The official reason in the US is that churches are 'Pro Bono' organizations that benefit society. 

    Why and how that is determined and supported and by which criteria I will leave for you to research and decide whether that is an acceptable reason in your opinion.

    I am not invested in the general issue.

    Edit: Because the brief research I conducted before posting on this topic was tedious and and tiring. This post was edited by tom jackson at March 23, 2018 6:13 PM MDT
      March 23, 2018 6:05 PM MDT
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  • 5808
    Non Profit Corporation paperwork
    was submitted and approved
      March 21, 2018 4:51 PM MDT
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  • 17599
    IRS publication 1828 This post was edited by Thriftymaid at March 21, 2018 7:01 PM MDT
      March 21, 2018 5:51 PM MDT
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  • 46117
    SO?   It needs to be abolished.
      March 21, 2018 7:00 PM MDT
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  • 17599
    Why ask why when you have no interest in knowing why?  
      March 23, 2018 12:51 AM MDT
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  • 34284
    1st Amendment.....
    The easiest way to control someone or an organization is to use the tax code.
      March 21, 2018 5:56 PM MDT
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  • 46117
    The churches are hardly controlled.   Unless you are speaking of the pockets that are getting lined. 
      March 21, 2018 7:01 PM MDT
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  • 34284
    Political speech has been illegal since the 1950s because LBJ did not want them opposing him. It is called the Johnson rule....churches can loose their tax exempt status if the are found in violation of it. Perfect example of using tax code to control. 
      March 22, 2018 4:54 AM MDT
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  • 16790
    If it happened in the 1950s, it wasn't LBJ. Blame Eisenhower/Nixon. LBJ didn't become Veep until 1961, wasn't Prez until 1963.
      March 22, 2018 5:01 AM MDT
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  • 34284
    It was passed in 1954 when Johnson was a Senator. 
      March 22, 2018 8:07 AM MDT
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  • 16790
    House minority with no power other than a single vote.
      March 22, 2018 4:07 PM MDT
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  • 34284
    Yet, it is named after him. "The Johnson Amendment"
      March 22, 2018 7:56 PM MDT
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  • 13277
    You see, SBF, Republicans are not always devils and Democrats are not always angels.
      March 23, 2018 7:45 AM MDT
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  • 16790
    Of course not, before Obama the last good President who was also a decent human being was a Republican. Eisenhower. Lincoln was also a Republican. Today's GOP wouldn't accept Ike or Abe, both too "liberal" for a party that has shifted to the right of Mussolini.
    Since Eisenhower, you've had JFK (serial philanderer, despite having a stunning wife), Johnson (war monger), Nixon (crook), Ford (nice guy but weak President), Carter (ditto), Reagan (armed terrorists), Bush 1 (read my lips), Slick Willy (I did not have sexual relations with that woman) and Bush 2 (GFC and thick as a brick).
      March 23, 2018 5:14 PM MDT
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  • 5835
    What do you mean by "churches"? We have two things that go by that name: one is called "institutions of religion" in the constitution and they are outside the authority of government. The other is a corporation created under the Internal Revenue Code, existing by the government's permission. 

    A lot of church officials don't know that.
      March 21, 2018 8:34 PM MDT
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  • 46117
    Fair enough.  I meant religions. 

      March 21, 2018 8:44 PM MDT
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  • 5835
    Religions are not tax exempt, they are outside the government's jurisdiction. 501C3 corporations are tax exempt because they were created for that purpose.
      March 21, 2018 8:53 PM MDT
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  • 13277
    Why does it bother you so much? Does it harm you in any way?
      March 22, 2018 5:05 PM MDT
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  • 13277
    Why are any not-for-profit organizations tax-exempt? If you tax religions, you'd have to tax all non-profits. This post was edited by Stu Spelling Bee at March 23, 2018 12:26 PM MDT
      March 23, 2018 7:52 AM MDT
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  • For all of you that pretend not to know the definition of the separation of church and state, Nobody from the founding until now, ever said that the church doesn't have a right in the affairs of government. It's the other way around. The government is supposed to stop at the church door and that includes the financial resources of same. There is supposed to be some protection in place to prevent state sponsored and state controlled faith. There's no better way to control the affairs of faith than to have the IRS breathing down their neck constantly. 
      March 23, 2018 8:40 AM MDT
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