Active Now

Slartibartfast
Discussion » Questions » Current Events and News » Should the slogan be 'Make Democracy Great Again'?

Should the slogan be 'Make Democracy Great Again'?

Democracy in America Is Already Weak and It’s Only Getting Worse, Majority of Americans Say in New Poll.

https://www.newsweek.com/democracy-america-weak-poll-996088

Posted - June 28, 2018

Responses


  • 22891
    maybe
      June 28, 2018 5:32 PM MDT
    0

  • 5391
    That’s not bad. I have a suggestion for your consideration. How about:

    “Bring America Together Again”
      June 28, 2018 7:02 PM MDT
    3

  • 5614
    So, a movement back to functional delusions? This post was edited by O-uknow at June 29, 2018 5:47 AM MDT
      June 29, 2018 5:46 AM MDT
    0

  • 5391
    If that is what you call less polarization.

    Funny to hear you of all people talk about “functional delusions”...ironic.  This post was edited by Don Barzini at June 29, 2018 1:05 PM MDT
      June 29, 2018 11:54 AM MDT
    1

  • 2658
      June 29, 2018 11:20 AM MDT
    1

  • 1502
    Much better slogan, Don. 
      July 17, 2018 10:41 AM MDT
    0

  • 7792
    Sounds good to me.
      June 28, 2018 7:03 PM MDT
    1

  • 5614
    There has never been a Democracy on this soil to be made great again. Even once an acceptable number of citizens to be called a majority were able to vote the voting process that allowed it was less than great.
      June 28, 2018 9:33 PM MDT
    0

  • 2658

    Democracy is "government of, by and for the people". - Abraham Lincoln
      June 29, 2018 11:43 AM MDT
    0

  • 5835
    Democracy is not great. Consider any political question. Let's consider abortion: about half the populations says ok, about half says not ok. But if a law is passed, everybody is forced to go one way. That is to say, half the population is forced to go along with something they consider obscene. 

    Now if you think a while you realize that there is no need for everybody to be forced to do things the same way. It is normal for every person (in a free country) to do whatever seems right to them. The only reason for laws is that there are some wackos who insist that everybody must be forced to comply. And that is not a free country.

    Bottom line: if you want a great country it has to be a free country and that means some people do things you would not choose to do.
      June 28, 2018 10:14 PM MDT
    0

  • 17592
    You can have your very own slogan if you like.
      June 28, 2018 11:50 PM MDT
    0

  • 6098
    Only way democracy can be great is if the majorities and minorities respect one another.  Rather than excoriating and demonizing each other with all kinds of nasty names and outrageous accusations. 
      June 29, 2018 5:04 AM MDT
    1

  • 2706
    The United States is a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy so your and Newsweek's weak Democracy scenario is a non-issue. That said if there is any weakening of this country it's being propagated by the liberal left Democrat politicians. As always, just my opinion. :)
      June 29, 2018 7:51 AM MDT
    1

  • 2658
    https://www.quora.com/Is-the-US-a-republic-or-a-democracy-1

    Paul J. Richards - Wash Post.

    I often hear people argue that the United States is a republic, not a democracy. But that’s a false dichotomy. A common definition of “republic” is, to quote the American Heritage Dictionary, “A political order in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who are entitled to vote for officers and representatives responsible to them” — we are that. A common definition of “democracy” is, “Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives” — we are that, too.

    The United States is not a direct democracy, in the sense of a country in which laws (and other government decisions) are made predominantly by majority vote. Some lawmaking is done this way, on the state and local levels, but it’s only a tiny fraction of all lawmaking. But we are a representative democracy, which is a form of democracy.

    Democracy is "government of, by and for the people". - Abraham Lincoln This post was edited by Beans/SilentGeneration at June 29, 2018 11:39 AM MDT
      June 29, 2018 11:23 AM MDT
    0

  • 6023
    And "direct democracy" doesn't work on any large scale ... other than anarchy, if you call that "working".  LOL
      June 29, 2018 12:06 PM MDT
    0

  • 2706
    Let's put aside Paul J. Richards and the Washington Compost for a minute and read how the Founding Fathers felt about a democracy. 

      
    Alexander Hamilton "We are now forming a Republican form of government. Real liberty is not found in the extremes of democracy, but in moderate governments. If we incline too much to democracy we shall soon shoot into a monarchy, or some other form of a dictatorship. "Hamilton, in the last letter he ever wrote, warned that "our real disease is DEMOCRACY."

      
    Thomas Jefferson said: "A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine."

      Benjamin Franklin said: “Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!” After the Constitutional Convention was concluded, in 1787, a bystander inquired of Franklin: "Well, Doctor, what have we got a Republic or a Monarchy?" Franklin replied, "A Republic, if you can keep it." 

      
    John Adams, wrote: “Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself.”

      
    James Madison, the father of the Constitution wrote in Federalist Paper No. 10 that pure democracies “have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths."

     The Constitution itself, in Article IV, Section 4, declares: "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government.” Obviously the Framers were not speaking of a political party, as no political parties existed at that time. Clearly, the Founders gave us plenty of warning that democracies have historically led to tyranny and that, in their wisdom, they never intended our nation to devolve into a democracy. Who am I going to believe, Paul J. Richards from a notoriously liberal left newspaper or the hands on, where the rubber meets the road Founding Fathers, who knew better than anyone what the dangers of a democracy were? With all due respect, instead of relying on a Paul J. Richards for your information on what type of government we have, perhaps you should read the history of the United States. Just a thought. :) This post was edited by rusureamisure? at July 16, 2018 5:40 PM MDT
      June 30, 2018 9:48 AM MDT
    1

  • 2658

    Democracy is "government of, by and for the people". - Abraham Lincoln

    In America, our origins matter less than our destination, and that is what democracy is all about. -Ronald Reagan 


    This post was edited by Beans/SilentGeneration at June 30, 2018 10:10 AM MDT
      June 30, 2018 9:59 AM MDT
    0

  • 2706
     Abraham Lincoln and Ronald Reagan both loved this country. Having said that both were far enough removed from the founders of this country and their intent for this country to have lost sight of the distinctions between a democracy and a republic that the Framers had in mind. The word Democracy is never once found in the Constitution, the Pledge of Allegiance, or the Amendments yet it's a word that's freely tossed around today. Usually by people and politicians who have no idea what the word actually means in regards to the type of government system we have. :)
      July 17, 2018 6:46 AM MDT
    1

  • 13071
    What a great answer. I love it. ;)
      July 16, 2018 5:41 PM MDT
    2

  • 2706
    Thank you. I appreciate it. :)
      July 17, 2018 6:28 AM MDT
    0

  • 5835

    If you have the patience to read a rather long explanation, it's here: 
    https://comingdarkage.blogspot.com/

     

    Every culture in history has eventually collapsed, except the ones that were conquered before they could collapse. Libya was a notable exception. It had a king for 2800 years and then switched to a president.

    The USA has been showing signs of impending collapse since about WW2. No nation has ever avoided collapse once the signs showed.

      July 16, 2018 7:10 PM MDT
    0

  • 46117
    Well, we know that everything that Trump says is a lie.

    If he tried that, it would TRUMP all his other lies and be the BIGGEST LIE OF ALL.

    As long as a TRAITOR to this COUNTRY is in power, there is NO democracy.  None.

      July 16, 2018 9:07 PM MDT
    1

  • 2658
    "Now is the Time for All Good People to Come to the Aid of their Country" ...
      July 16, 2018 11:19 PM MDT
    0

  • 2706
    Well, we know that everything that Trump says is a lie? First, who's "we"? Second, how do you know for a fact that Trump lies about everything? Third, are you privy to everything Trump has ever said in his life to have come to the conclusion that he lies about everything? Forth, do you have any documentation/proof/hard facts that Trump lies about everything? No? Didn't think so. :)
      July 17, 2018 6:53 AM MDT
    0