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"In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth.." Where did time and space come from to give God a place to create?

How could God exist before space was created since there would be no place for him to exist?

Posted - August 17, 2016

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  • 6988

     Perhaps Einstein would have the answer. Perhaps some atheists could step up to the plate on this one. How about it all you scientists at CERN labs? The God particle? Huh?

      August 17, 2016 1:53 PM MDT
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  • 2758

    "Heavens" imply space. 'Time' is an illusion which is applicable only to linearly bound critters such as ourselves.

      August 17, 2016 2:06 PM MDT
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  • 2758

    I think they call it Particle X now.  You know, after St. Andrew's cross?

    :-)

      August 17, 2016 2:08 PM MDT
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  • 13395
    Don't need a 'God particle' or graviton since gravity is not a force that must be carried by a particle like energy requires the photon particle.

    Science does not require supernatural forces to enable existence or to explain existence. If there was a particle required to carry a supernatural force then you could call it the 'God particle.
      August 17, 2016 2:18 PM MDT
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  • 13395
    How could God exist before space was created since there would be no place for him to exist.

    God could not create time neither because time has no beginning to create. A beginning is an element of time so time would already have to exist in order to enable a beginning to occur.
      August 17, 2016 2:33 PM MDT
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  • 2758

    At some point, we all have to settle on certain beliefs or theories as a given. Why? Because there's no way to answer questions regarding the universe's origin.  Even if we could satisfactorily explain its beginnings--which we can't, not yet, anyway--we have no way of knowing what happened prior.  Same goes for the relatively microcosmic issue of the origins of life on earth.  We think we know...but in reality we do not. Some guesses are way more educated than others...but they're still guesses.

    And as I said, 'time' really doesn't apply outside the perceptions of linearly bound beings. At the quantum level, it is quite possible (if not at least conceivable) that effect can precede cause.

      August 17, 2016 2:58 PM MDT
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  • 386
      August 17, 2016 4:10 PM MDT
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  • 13395
    I don't know where God could be or how he could be if 'existence'was a point where time and space is zero dimensional. Time is non-physical. God would have to be like time; existing but static in nature if not illusionary as well.

    I am assuming time is static and everything revolves around time in a relative way.
      August 17, 2016 4:34 PM MDT
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  • 2052

    Our universe is sitting in a globe on his desk. 

      August 17, 2016 4:41 PM MDT
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  • 13395
    Long as he's been keeping track where Earth is so Jesus can find his way for the second coming.
      August 17, 2016 4:54 PM MDT
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  • 13395
    Right since gods were invented thousands of years before God showed up to start inspiring bible stories about himself.
      August 17, 2016 5:34 PM MDT
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  • 13395
    Kinda.
      August 17, 2016 6:24 PM MDT
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  • 5835

    A human trying to analyze God is like a Ford trying to analyze Henry.

      August 17, 2016 11:28 PM MDT
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  • 13395
    Well actually yes. I haven't even got the tooth fairy too well figured out yet.
      August 17, 2016 11:35 PM MDT
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  • 676

    I don´t believe in god so I don´t even bother with all that religious hogwash.

      August 17, 2016 11:56 PM MDT
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  • 13395
    That's probably a good idea.
      August 18, 2016 6:52 AM MDT
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  • 16

    Interesting question. Basically you're asking what's "outside" our universe.  The problem for most of us how we think about space and time, aka the universe.  When we hear about 'the big bang" and "the expanding universe" we picture a balloon getting bigger as one blows air into it.  The balloon exists in three dimensional space and it's expanding into the space around it.  However that's not what's happening with the universe. There is no "edge" as we understand it.  There are theories about what's "outside" our universe, what existed before the Big Bang, but they all involve complex physics about dimensions and subatomic particles etc...I'm not nearly smart enough to understand what the heck they're talking about.  So I suppose the answer would be God exists in a way we can not possibly understand. He lives outside our understanding of how the universe works. In another dimension beyond our comprehension. He didn't need "time and space" because He doesn't exist in "time and space".

     In other words "In the beginning..." was written by someone who couldn't possibly know that God existe and it was He who created "the heavens and Earth".

      August 18, 2016 6:55 AM MDT
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  • 13395
    In the beginning of what? I guess He just means 'in the beginning of this story '.
      August 18, 2016 7:17 AM MDT
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  • 13395
    Another thought is that there cannot be an 'outside the universe' because space would not exist for there to be an outside.
      August 18, 2016 10:42 AM MDT
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  • 46117

    Big Bang

      August 18, 2016 11:11 AM MDT
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  • 13395
    Right then God did not create the heavens and the Earth since the big bang happened long before 6000 years ago.
      August 18, 2016 11:39 AM MDT
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  • 33747

    Where does the Bible say 6-7000 yrs old?

      August 18, 2016 11:55 AM MDT
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  • 6988

      August 18, 2016 12:24 PM MDT
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      August 18, 2016 12:26 PM MDT
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