There is no law that says I have to only do one or the other. Just beauty would be so silly, when it falls apart and just function could be very ugly. So, both. As humans we are able to create function and design in most areas.
When you buy a car do you choose function or style? Now you say you can have both. That can get very expensive. If your budget is limited what do you choose when you can't have both or do you insist you can? Rent a two-bedroom house or buy a $10 million mansion? I guarantee you that the former isn't nearly as stylish and beautiful as the latter. So you are stuck saying you CAN have both and I am stuck not believing you. It happens. Thank you for your reply.
This post was edited by RosieG at December 21, 2018 8:08 AM MST
How things function and are fit for use is far more important than how things look Rosie..
Ie ...what's the point of having a badly designed expensive car that is forever breaking down...It might look good,but if it's not fir for purpose it's just a pile of expensive junk that forever soaks up money...:(
((hugs)) I love this answer because it answers the question I asked AND because it makes good sense. I had a crush on the XKE Jaguar decades ago and I was told it spent a lot of time being repaired. So what good would it be to me? Thank you for your reply D and Happy Friday to thee! :)
Do you mean the 1959 E Type Jaguar Rosie.....The most beautiful car ever made they say.....Their original brakes and suspension was not very good though....plus they did like to rust...:(
YES! I actually saw one and sat in it sweetie. This was decades ago when we lived in Massachusetts. The husband of my then-husband's cousin was a German guy who was an engineer but also an auto mechanic. He had one! It was in the garage and he was working on it and I asked if I could just sit in it. I never got to ride in one though and I was told they required something like 26 quarts of oil and were always in a garage being repaired. But the lines were really gorgeous! Thank you for your reply D and Happy Saturday to thee! :)
Jaguars used three engines back then Rosue....There was a 3.4 litre ,3.8 and 4.2 liter....they were al good and reliable mbut the 3.8 was the fastest and the best of the bunch....They even fitted them to the 420 model and the largest of them all the 420 G....
They made a Daimler V8 2.4 litre which had a bad engine that liked to burn oil...It looked like the MK 2 that rotted a lot... The E Type is an icon now...:)
hello there Nice Jugs Did you mean the 59' xk, I thought the E-type didn't come out till the early 60's, both are gorgeous.. At one point I really wanted an E-type but could not afford one, this was in 1984. I bought n old A.H. sprite. It didn't run. My plan was to fix it up and sell it and get another and sell it and so on till I had enough for the jag. I sold the sprite and then did a bug eye sprite, then got a A.H. 3000. Did the body work and had it painted, the interior was done when I decided to redo the wiring harness. got it done, took it for a test drive, made it back to the house, parked and went inside. I came out about 15 minutes or so to find the car ablaze..so that was the end of the possibility of getting the Jag...
E type in England...XK-E in America.....They first came off the production line in 1961...and were made up until 1975 .. Never liked the Sprite or the Frog Eye.....Nor the Triumph Spitifire......Fun little cars....cheap to fix and run as well.... The Jensen Interceptor and FF model were awesome though....the soares cost a fortune though from Jensens.....but if you brought the spares from Chrysler cars America ....you got them for peanuts....
A starter solenoid from Jensens was £125 ......the exact same part from Chyslers American car parts in England was just £5 plus change....
My dad had a friend that had an E Type.....he was a bit of a lunatic driver.......He put the wrong speed rated tyres on his E type because of the costs ot the correct ones......He then drove down and up a hill through a tiny village at 140 mph instead of just 30 mph......The back tyres caught alight and burnt the car out..... He never got paid out on his insurance and got nicked by Mr Plod for driving on incorrect tyres....no valid insurance and for speeding....:( The guy was a maniac really and deserved all he got....lol
The AH 3000 was another iconic car....Looked quite nice as well....They were well made to and highly desirable nowadays.... Do you remember the Daimler Dart......They were nice loking cars with a bad 2.4 litre v8 engine I think....
If you want the world to know you've built a crap car, call it a Dart. The Daimler Dart was pretty but the small V8 only developed 100bhp. BMC tried something similar with the MGB, also pretty but genuinely awful to drive. The Dodge Dart was a heavy, unweildy pile of junk. And let's not talk about the Goggomobil Dart.
This post was edited by Slartibartfast at December 22, 2018 8:36 PM MST
I ti I think the Daimler Dart bad the same engine as it's Daimler V8 Mk ll Jag cousin.... They have loads of engine problems and the lack of power is not thst much of a problem if you're not interested in driving like a fool all the time.... At the end of the day .......all these cars are show cars....why risk smashing them when there are so few left...Plus I hate to be thrown about in any vehicle while some prick shows of his driving skills....it never ever impressed me....id rather get out and walk...:(
If a V8 doesn't develop a lot of power, its own weight makes it a liability. The Leyland P76 was another that was underpowered for its weight. It's not top speed that's the issue, it's unresponsiveness at low revs. Accelerates like a pig and has a bad habit of stalling at inconvenient times - halfway across an intersection, for example.
This post was edited by Slartibartfast at December 22, 2018 8:50 PM MST
The P76 was a British car - built by British Leyland and one of the reasons why Leyland went bust, it was a lemon. You may be a little young to remember them, there are very few still in existence.
Hello again....Nice Jugs. Oh yes, I certainly have fond memories of the Interceptor. A High=school friend's father had one, and Matt would take it out every once in awhile, until he got caught... Here, the sprite, midget, and Spitfire are affordable entries into the small roadster market ( you can find good drivers for a few grand.) From there you move up to cars such as the TR6, Datsun 1600 and the like, I wish I still had that 3000, It was a 67' mk3, probably worth 50k+ now. Weren't the Daimler darts the ones that looked like the face of a catfish.
My dad had friends with Interceptors.....both FF and Interceptors were beautiful.....I loved the back seat design in them to....they looked amazing....
The TR6 had fuel injection problems....It had the 2.5 injection engine and the thrust washers on the Crank use to wear and and let the crank move forwards and back..they then leaked oil from the front and rear seals and you couldn't change gears....as it messed with the clutch.... I never liked any early Japanese cars....great mechanics.....but were rot boxes...:(
The early Datsuns were mechanically Austins but more reliable. The Austin A55 and Datsun 1600 were practically indistinguishable under the bonnet. Ditto the A40 and the 1200. Then Austin built the Kimberley with the east-west motor and it was such a lemon that Austin disappeared almost overnight. Agreed, those early Japanese cars were prone to cancer (rust), the engines outlasted the chassis.
I never knew Datsun used Austin engines.... Rover put a 2.6 straight 6 Australian engine in the SDi.....it was hopeles....The 3.5 v8 was awesome though...
Datsun engines were built by Nissan but it was Austin's design, much as early Subarus used Volkswagen-designed engines but with a liquid-cooled radiator. The Holden engine you refer to that Rover bought briefly was built in Australia but designed by GM in the US. The 186 cubic inch straight 6 was a disaster, Holden Kingswoods were notoriously unreliable. So was the 2 litre 4cyl Starfire, used by the Holden Sunbird and also the Toyota Corona - dubbed "Misfire" by those unlucky enough to own one.
This post was edited by Slartibartfast at December 22, 2018 9:53 PM MST
Honda built an engine for one of their high end cars that was a nightmare to work on.....no garage would work on them.....it always had valve problems ....:(
Land Rover Freelanders have Austrailian petrol engines that do their head gaskets every few months it feels.....no matter what modifications they make to them the gasket still fails.....the head bolts go down to the sump and have to be replaced everytime the head is removed....they are stretch bolt and single use only....:( ho stupid is that...