Discussion»Questions»Animals (Pets/ Domesticated)» Dog owners and cat owners, are there any of you who DO NOT assume that other people automatically want to pet your pet, or to have your pet
Dog owners and cat owners, are there any of you who DO NOT assume that other people automatically want to pet your pet, or to have your pet
rub its fur all over them?
This question refers to those those pet owners who either allow or in some cases make their pets jump onto a person’s lap, climb all over a person, cuddle up to a person, etc.
It's the other way around in rural parts of Australia. One must ask permission of the owner before checking out whether the dog would like to be petted. You'd get a nasty spew of verbal abuse if you didn't ask first. It started originally with working dogs. The owner needs the dog to have only one master and one source of pleasure in order to maintain obedience and discipline. This is true at all times for sheep and cattle dogs. It's also true of blind and disabled companion dogs when they're in a harness or on duty in their work clothes. And woe betide any person who tries to make friends with a pig hunter's dogs, or the guard dogs in the back of tradesmen's trucks.
Since learning this lesson the hard way, I now ask permission of all owners, even when visiting city areas.
This post was edited by inky at December 2, 2019 4:09 AM MST
It is rude (and possibly dangerous) to walk up and touch another person's pet without permission
* Thou shalt not touch my cats, lest they bite you and become sick. * Thou shalt not tease my cast lest I come and strike thee with a hairball. * Thou shalt not touch my dog, lest thou wants to hear him bark, whine and growl with a stuffed animal in his mouth for the next 4 hours. Be thou forewarned, his tail hast been classified as a lethal weapon. * If thou toucheth my pets without my permission, thou must keepeth all fur that dost clingeth to thy vestments... even that which came off of the sofa. * Thou shalt admire my older cat and lavish on him much praise, lest he smite you with his mighty claws. * Thou shalt ignore my small cat lest he becomes frightened and belcheth... making thy eyes burn for weeks and that paint of my house peel. * Thou shalt not calleth my panther-cat "kitty", lest ye bring down his wrath. (9-1-1 is pre-programmed into the phone)
If thou does not abide by these commandments, try not to bleed on the new carpet as thou waiteth for the ambulance.
You may have misread or misunderstood the question and its accompanying description field. I’m not referring to people initiating the contact with a pet, I’m referring to pet owners or pets themselves initiating the contact. ~
A few months ago while in Lowes I asked a woman who had a dog in her shopping cart if she was going to disinfect the cart when she took her animal out of it. She stood there with her mouth opened. I walked away.
Children are not to be compared to dogs. You have stated the problem created by people having lost perspective regarding the difference between humans and other animals. Please try to adjust yourself.
Stores and other public places are for people, not animals, save animal parks, veterinary facilities, kennel facilities, grooming facilities, training facilities, competitions, etc. Lowes is a people store. The public should not be forced to be around other people's pets in public places.
Human excreta and the lack of adequate personal and domestic hygiene have been implicated in the transmission of many infectious diseases including cholera, typhoid, hepatitis, polio, cryptosporidiosis, ascariasis, and schistosomiasis. (Internet)
Are you seriously suggesting that the fecal matter of children still in diapers poses no danger to other humans.
And just like TV, no one is forcing you to watch any programs that offend you---either turn it off or unplug it and if necessary don't shop at Lowe's.
And I am familiar with the phylogenetic scale---and trust me, I have not lost any perspective relative to its categories and the "specific differences" used to classify members of the animal kingdom..
The television program analogy doesn’t really work here. She didn’t say that she did not want to shop at the store nor that she didn’t want to enter the store. It’s not a choice of selecting between going to the store or not going to the store. She stated that she has an objection to something she encountered inside the store, a situation that if I read and understand her point correctly, is forced upon others; the after-effects of a pet being in a cart that would be later be used by others. ~
No, it does work---analogy by definition is not a precise parallel to the situation to which it is analogous.
My point is that now having been made aware that fecal matter and other excreta may in fact have been in the cart provided for her convenience and at her own "presumption of risk" (based on the "reasonable man" test) it is now within her ability to avoid any potential risk associated with the shopping carts provided by the business.
At no point did I intimate that an analogy in general nor your analogy in particular was or should be a precise parallel. How's this: you used an absolutely lousy analogy.
You started off your entire deal by going for her jugular, possibly because you took exception to what she had written about animals, or possibly because you didn't like the way she failed to jump on your what-about-the-children plea, fine.
You have every right to write whatever you think is right, and when others have differing points of view, they also have that same right. If she chooses to restrict her comments to pets on this topic and not expand it to children, it's her prerogative. ~
Like most people, you have some areas where your judgment might be subject to question---but I do not consider those areas in you to be anything approaching a serious concern.
Parrots can be very affectionate and love being tickled or massaged o the neck if reared to it from chicken-hood.
I believe people who haven't learned from experts how to handle a species properly should always be kept at bay. And only animals well trained and socialised when young should be allowed contact with selected friends.
As with any unknown animal, you should never pet it without both the pet's and owner's permission.
My animals are in my home. If you are a stranger to my animals I will remove them before I let you in. The dog because she will bark. The cat because he will attack you...he is the guard not the dog. The dog just wants petted and thinks barking means pet me. If animals are familar with you, you are on your own pet or do not it up to you and the pet. I will make the pet listen if they are bothering the guest.
Do not pet the reptiles or fish.
This post was edited by my2cents at December 2, 2019 6:58 AM MST
I’m not referring to a third party's desire to initiate contact with the dog or cat, I’m referring to pet owners who allow their pets or cause their pets to come into contact with that third party. ~
As I said IF the animal is bothering the guest I will intervene. I do not take my animals into the public. I generally know the feelings of my guests and my pets about one another.
This post was edited by my2cents at December 2, 2019 9:23 AM MST
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