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Tories and Boris Johnson win a majority - WTF

Boris Johnson and the Tories won an astounding victory yesterday in the UK. The Apple Cart of the last 40 years has been truly upended since Brexit will be a reality.  I have many friends who are now in limbo with their residency, employment, and relationships alll in peril.

How did this happen?  My first thought is why did Labor choose Jeremy Corbyn to lead.  Why is it these days the Politicos are choosing the radicals on tails to lead instead of the centrists.


Posted - December 13, 2019

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  • 44619
    Maybe NJ will answer this one with her usual wittiness. Johnson is daffy.
      December 13, 2019 6:46 AM MST
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  • 1305
    Element these are our choices, Harold Steptoe from Steptoe and Son aka Jeremy Corbyn..



    The Fish wife who hasn't got a clue, from the liberal democrats Jo Swinson.



    Or Boris the Buffoon/Pinocchio

      December 13, 2019 7:06 PM MST
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  • 44619
    No real choices...perhaps you.
      December 13, 2019 8:19 PM MST
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  • 1305

    I wouldn't want to be one of them, that would require the removal of the area of the brain that has any morals or honesty.  They've got some perverse initiation rituals going on, like Cameron putting his dick in a pigs mouth, and there is always one story or another coming out of them being found wearing women's underwear stockings and suspenders, and that's the men.

      December 14, 2019 12:04 PM MST
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  • 14795
    I'm ashamed to say they are all English...:(
      December 15, 2019 5:48 PM MST
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  • 14795
    To right she will....Cooty Corbrn "as he's known"could do with a good wash...He's been playing Humpy Bump with Dianne two left shoes Abbot ....The dim witted moron would destroy us all with his half baked ideology he thinks he possesses....Fat pig woman beater Boris fares no better....some weeks ago he bashed the lady it stays with ....with power comes freaks'vile ...
    You not alone with your freak....
    Our political leaders are all about as charismatic as a disused dog turd...
    I could go on ,but don't want to become a Boar....  Hehe  
      December 15, 2019 5:31 PM MST
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  • 44619
    I guess they are all related to the Royal family.
      December 15, 2019 5:50 PM MST
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  • 14795
    You are so so good at hitting nails on their heads Papa....:) 
      December 15, 2019 5:55 PM MST
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  • 44619
    I have learnt a lot from you.
      December 15, 2019 5:57 PM MST
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  • 14795
    Really,but you are the teacher Papa not I ...
      December 15, 2019 6:02 PM MST
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  • 34283
    Yay. 
    This is good news for the world. A statement to the socialists and globalists....they are not in control. A true shot in the arm for conservatives around the world. 
    Yay. I am ready for Nov. Trump 2020. 


    That said I do hope your friends get their issues worked out for the benefit. This post was edited by my2cents at December 14, 2019 11:59 AM MST
      December 13, 2019 7:05 AM MST
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  • 2836
    I can't wait to see Trump hanging from a tree
    lol

    In the meantime, continue to enjoy your socialist programs like:
    Social Security
    Medicare
    Fire Department
    Police Department
    US Military
    Veterans Administration
    Municipalities like Water, Electric, Sewage

    America was great before Trump. Now we are the biggest global laughing stock of all countries because of the cesspool Trump has submersed us all in.

    BTW..."Globalists" is dog-whistle for right-wing haters and is anti-semitic terminology.  Globalists referred to anyone who isn't a nativist/nationalist
    Jews would likely be one of the targets since we've heard for over a century about the global Jewish conspiracy.  Trump is anti-semitic despite having a Jewish son-in-law but in fairness...Kushner himself is a criminal like his old man who Chris Christie put behind bars
      December 13, 2019 10:03 AM MST
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  • 44619
    You are Jewish?
      December 13, 2019 8:22 PM MST
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  • 2836
    No, but that does not mean that I do not know what REAL anti-semitism is
      December 13, 2019 10:23 PM MST
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  • 34283

    Pro-globalization companies, organizations, and individuals support policies such as free trade, offshored manufacturing, and open borders, and oppose limitations such as tariffs, embargos, and other internationally restrictive economic and political actions by national governments.

     

    Nothing to do with Jewish people or Judaism. A globalist maybe Jewish. But the two are not mutually inclusive.

    Trump is the most supportive of Israel than vertically any POTUS in history.

    As for the rest, just because something is an action taken (service provided) by the government does not mean that is socialism.

    Socialism is system of government where the gov controls the means of production.

    Socialism as defined by Vladimir Lenin:

    “What is usually called socialism was termed by Marx the 'first', or lower, phase of communist society. Insofar as the means of production become common property, the word 'communism' is also applicable here, providing we do not forget that this is not complete communism” (The State and Revolution)

    Or

    “For socialism is merely the next step forward from state-capitalist monopoly. Or, in other words, socialism is merely state-capitalist monopoly which is made to serve the interests of the whole people and has to that extent ceased to be capitalist monopoly” (The Impending Catastrophe and How to Combat It)

    The state has no monpoly on anything you mentioned.  There are privately owned versions of them all.

    (There are private security, private fire departments, private militias, private water, sewer, electric sources)

    Having a social contract is not socialism.  A police/fire/military is not a business. It is the gov doing its purpose...its only purpose. Providing for the protection of its citizen's life, rights and property. If a town/city choices to add things like water/sewer/electric/trash services etc this does not make it socialist as simply an agreement to the social contract. That could be changed later if the people agreed to remove it.

    In socialism, the gov would simply own it all (all means of productions = businesses) there would be no social contract. The would simply do as they are told. And the gov would provide what they decide...not what the people decide.

     

      December 14, 2019 5:36 AM MST
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  • 2836
    Yes...It's a fact that "Globalism" and "Globalist" is a dog whistle to the right-wing

    You have failed. Everything I said is true. You really need to do more research. The agencies and organizations I have listed are all pure socialism. Whether you like it or not and no long-winded trumpslaining or basic talking points you were fed and choose to rehash is going to change that.

    As for Israel. Every president has been supportive of that state and tbh, it's time we stop giving them handouts and $3Billion plus a year of OUR money, TAXPAYER MONEY for God knows what.
    I am sick of you people like you failing to understand the difference between Church & State. The only reason US pols give them Welfare is because of some cockamamie biblical billsh*t. 

    $3Billion+ would go along way to feed people, providing housing, and a national healthcare system but God forbid we take care of people right? Especially the unborn that we fight so valiantly to save from abortion so they can live in poverty, starve, or die of an illness easily treated by over-priced meds easily purchased in other countries for minuscule costs but are virtually unobtainable to them because they come with ridiculous prices like Epi-pens and many antibiotics do.

    Yeah..not enough money to provide to those in need but enough to handout to the "Globalist" as the right calls them.

    Socialism evil. Socialism bad.  
    Jesus Christ was a socialist who fought the bankers, believed in healthcare for the poor and fed those who's bellies ached from hunger.

    People with beliefs such as yours drove me away from the Lord for a long time because I did not agree with what y'all constantly preached.  I could not understand how an all-knowing, all-loving God could possibly treat people in ways being told and taught and to me.  I was weak. I was misdirected. I failed to know that those such as you are wrong in your intrepretations either willfully or through ignorance & gullibility. I am not being judgemental.  Just stating facts based upon observation.  I have seen you espouse scripture, but I do not believe you truly understand what the words you memorize mean.

    BTW...Boris is no friend of Donald. LOL 
    He thinks Trump is a total joke and that's telling This post was edited by Jon at December 15, 2019 6:10 PM MST
      December 14, 2019 9:44 AM MST
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  • 34283

    In 2014, the 113rd U.S. Congress passed H.R. 938, which classified Israel as a “major strategic partner” of the U.S. This title has not been given to any other nation in the world, not even to members of NATO. The bill unanimously passed the Senate and was signed by President Obama on December 19, 2014. This bill ensures that the US and Israel will work together on nearly every platform, including intelligence, cyber security, water, agriculture, defense, and alternative fuel. The overall goals are shared technology benefitting both countries and peace in the Middle East.

    Research is good.  Here is the basic definition of socialism: 

    Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy

    A social contract is not a good. It is not owned by the government. Not controlled by the government.  The local people vote on police/fire/utilities and have the control to change what they want changed.  IF it were socialism the GOV alone would have that control.  

      December 14, 2019 11:43 AM MST
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  • 46117
    SIGH.  Thousands upon thousands of people are in distress and you are happy.  Deplorable.  
      December 13, 2019 6:25 PM MST
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  • 34283
    In an election they are always people unhappy with the result.
      December 14, 2019 5:42 AM MST
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  • 2836
    Yeah..the majority. The Majority of US citizens did not vote for Trump. FACT

    Time to abolish the electoral
      December 14, 2019 9:41 AM MST
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  • 34283
    The electorial college is not going anywhere.  If the Congress wants to attempt to make the popular vote and the EC line up more. They need to lift the cap they put on the House of Reps. Founders never meant for one person to represent so many people. 
      December 14, 2019 10:06 AM MST
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  • 2836
    The electoral means nothing and is a sham. It will be removed.
    It's depriving and minimizing the people's votes.
    A popular vote is the only way to ensure that the Federal government represents the will of all the people.
    The founding fathers never envisioned a country the size of which we have now.

    The stagnated antiquated thinking you
    demonstrate in your talking points needs to be shelved. 


    This post was edited by Jon at December 14, 2019 10:16 AM MST
      December 14, 2019 10:14 AM MST
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  • 34283
    The FF never wanted a popular vote. And the Constitution would never have passed if not for the EC being in it. 
      December 14, 2019 11:44 AM MST
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  • 2836
    At first wealthy white men with property were the only Americans routinely permitted to vote. President Andrew Jackson helped advance the political rights of those who did not own property. By 1860, most white men without property were enfranchised. That did not apply to blacks (and women) until many years later and women.

    Brush up on your constitution and the laws, M2C. As Civilization advances and civil rights are progressed, more and more people are able to enjoy the rights they deserve.

    Equal votes for every man and woman in the US is the only way to ensure equality.  The vote should be calculated by rank-voting per state. The winner takes that state and then the voting would be done by states. The winner of the majority of states becomes president.
    Why are Republicans/conservatives afraid of people having an equal vote? 
      December 16, 2019 9:24 AM MST
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