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Do you think it ever may be possible to develop batteries small, light weight and powerful enough to fly planes through the air?

Would save having to load tons of polluting and flammable liquids aboard the aircraft. 

Posted - February 25, 2020

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  • 14795
    I read that there is an English guy at the moment that has developed a new lightweight  battery made of alumimium....it's so good that it can powered a propell plane and small ships and heavy lorries ,buses and many other electric vehicles....
    The big car manafactures are doing their upmost to stop it ......the guy use to work for British aerospace  hopefully it will begin production later this year...
    The good thing about it is it's almost pollution free.....yet all battery manafactures are still against it as it will make their products worthless....   
      February 25, 2020 4:53 PM MST
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  • 13257
    Fly planes through the air? LOL! What else can planes fly through?
      February 25, 2020 5:03 PM MST
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  • 14795
    They can fly through clouds, they can fly through smoke....they can fly through mountain ranges in daylight...they can also fly the flag of their counrty of origin...do I need to go no......hehe 
      February 25, 2020 5:14 PM MST
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  • 14795
    They can fly can fly around......they can fly past....they can fly up ....fly north ,south east or west....they can also fly about anywhere and even more so if they get lost....the can even be flying tonight...:) 
      February 25, 2020 5:18 PM MST
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  • 13257
    All of that is still air.
      February 25, 2020 5:44 PM MST
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  • 13395
    They use electricity from batteries to power submarines through water but not aircraft, that is why I wanted to be clear that I meant 'through the air'.
      February 25, 2020 6:00 PM MST
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  • 13257
    Can planes fly through water or submarines through the air? LOL.
      February 25, 2020 10:22 PM MST
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  • 1152
    Sure! At least according to the movies...;-D...







      February 25, 2020 10:51 PM MST
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  • 16240
    Fun fact - there are a lot more airplanes in the ocean than submarines in the sky.

      February 26, 2020 3:26 AM MST
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  • 13257
    True, but they're not flying.
      February 26, 2020 5:01 AM MST
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  • 14795
    That's not the point...my answers are funny and also true to ....
    Bullets fly through the air quickly....but it's not actually flying...
      February 25, 2020 6:02 PM MST
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  • 2836
    Trump Tower?
      February 25, 2020 5:26 PM MST
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  • 13257
    Sick.
      February 25, 2020 5:43 PM MST
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  • 2836
    But hilarious
      February 25, 2020 5:47 PM MST
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  • 10515
    Well I don't like to think about anybody getting hurt or killed but it might be hilarious if the plan hit the tower (nobody gets hurt) but Trump gets trapped for 2 weeks and the only food for him to survive on is broccoli. Cheers! 
      February 25, 2020 6:26 PM MST
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  • 13257
    And it would be a regular laugh riot for the people on the plane, wouldn't it?
      February 26, 2020 7:39 AM MST
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  • 13257
    I suppose it is to you, in a 9/11 kind of way. I doubt that anyone who knew people who died in those planes or towers would see the humor.
      February 26, 2020 5:01 AM MST
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  • 10515
    I think they already have a few battery planes that will fly for a hundred miles or so. Cheers!
      February 25, 2020 5:18 PM MST
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  • 5391
    Yes
      February 25, 2020 6:29 PM MST
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  • 1152
    The energy density of batteries would have to improve by AT LEAST an order of magnitude (i.e. the same energy storage in 1/10th the weight of current batteries) for a battery-powered aircraft to be commercially viable (to haul cargo or people).

    While I don't know exactly how the math works for aircraft, the current math for long-haul ground trucks is something like this:

    80,000 lbs diesel truck = 600 lbs. of diesel fuel to go 500 miles

    80,000 lbs electric truck = 20,000 lbs of batteries to go 500 miles.

    The reason electric passengers cars have become somewhat practical is because they are super super efficient, so they can go about the same distance with the energy equivalent of 3 gallons of gasoline as a combustion engine car with 15 gallons of actual gasoline.

    I don't know if similar efficiency gains are possible on aircraft.


      February 25, 2020 7:11 PM MST
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  • 14795
    What about strong elastic rubber bsnds as a means of propulsion......this is not a wind up....I'm pretty and still serious...:)
      February 25, 2020 8:39 PM MST
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  • 1152
    Many years ago, I did a research paper on alternatives to liquid hydrocarbon fuels. They are nearly impossible to beat.

    Imagine we didn't currently know about petrol, diesel, etc.  Now imagine someone pitching a "magic elixir" where a mere teacup of it could push a 3,000-lbs vehicle over a mile. You'd think it was either miraculous or a scam.

    Yet that's what we use every day. 

     
      February 25, 2020 8:56 PM MST
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  • 14795
    There are more fuels with far greater explosive powers....they are just far more expensive to produce though...
      February 26, 2020 2:44 AM MST
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  • 1152
    Well, yes. Production cost, stability, ease of storage, ease of transport, relative toxicity, and other factors all play a role. And, in most cases, it's petrol and diesel which "win" on those counts.

    I'm pretty sure we don't want our roads filled with vehicles using Aerozine 50 as their fuel.
      February 26, 2020 7:17 AM MST
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