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Did Donald J Trump wake up with a little more blood on his hands this morning?

Yesterday a man with a riffle and a nail gun attacked a FBI headquarters - he was fatally shot. The man was a die hard Trump supporter. Less then a hour after the FBI raided Trump's home he posted things like the FBI just broke into my beautiful home. The FBI did not break into his home they executed a legal search warrant. Trump also said the warrant wasn't necessary because he was cooperating with the FBI.  He was not fully cooperating because the FBI found boxes of classified documents in Trump's basement. Trump also said watch out next the FBI will be coming after you. That would be true if you had classified nuclear weapons documents hidden in your basement. Turns out the reason the FBI raided Trump's home is because they had reason to believe that Trump removed  classified nuclear weapons documents from the WH. Since the raid MAGA sites have been buzzing with talk of it being time for civil unrest and civil war and Trump has done nothing to try to put the fuse out just like he did nothing to try and stop the violence on Jan. 6th. Cheers!


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/12/fbi-search-trump-mar-a-lago-home-classified-nuclear-weapons-documents-report

Posted - August 12, 2022
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  • 16763
    Did Rosie emigrate to Canada and change her username?
      August 12, 2022 7:37 AM MDT
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  • 11102
    Probably not because Rosie loves her country and she stands her ground fighting the people that threaten it. Cheers! This post was edited by Nanoose at August 13, 2022 6:47 AM MDT
      August 12, 2022 8:02 AM MDT
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  • 3701
    What I don't understand is this:  Trump couldn't possibly have removed all those boxes of documents from the White House by himself under cover of night.  SOMEONE had to have known that he was removing things he wasn't entitled to take.  In fact, it had to be several people who knew about this and, if it turns out that Trump is indicted for this, then every person who enabled him to commit this treasonous act should be indicted as well.  The January 6 hearings are proving, through testimony under oath, that many of those testifying knew what he was doing with respect to the insurrection, yet no one did anything about stopping it.  Same for those who knew he was removing classified documents.  
      August 12, 2022 8:33 AM MDT
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  • 11102
    I guess one way to understand it is by considering that treasonous birds of a feather flock together. Cheers!
      August 12, 2022 8:53 AM MDT
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  • 3701
    Yet, they consider themselves patriots!
      August 12, 2022 10:08 AM MDT
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  • 11102
    Yeah it is pretty crazy. They figure they are patriots because Trump tells them they are and well he is at it he tells them who their enemies are. I think it is likely Trump knew the FBI found things that could send him to jail because within hours of the raid he started floating the idea that the FBI planted stuff at his home - that's what guilty crooks do. Cheers!
      August 12, 2022 10:25 AM MDT
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  • 3701
    If nothing else, he is definitely a master manipulator.
      August 12, 2022 3:06 PM MDT
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  • 34251
    They packed it. The General Services Administration  packed, sealed and mailed them to Mar a Lago. 

    They were all declassified by Trump while he was still POTUS. 
      August 12, 2022 6:23 PM MDT
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  • 7792
      August 12, 2022 6:32 PM MDT
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  • 34251
    Lol.  You know as former POTUS he still has clearance to view all of the files (they were declassified but even so)
    Mar a Lago has had a safe room that is referred to as a SCIF, or Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility, since 2017. So legally he is allowed to view a classified document in that safe room. 

    This is yet, another witch hunt and they will fail again. This post was edited by my2cents at August 12, 2022 7:04 PM MDT
      August 12, 2022 6:43 PM MDT
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  • 10996
    You are a fountain of misinformation, but it's clear that you don't care about reality.
      August 13, 2022 8:21 AM MDT
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  • 34251
    What do you believe is false or misinformation?  There is and has been a SCIF at Mar a Lago  since 2017 and as former POTUS  Trump still has a top secret clearance.  
      August 14, 2022 6:42 PM MDT
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  • 10996
    The SCIF was removed when Trump left office. Whether or not those documents were classified , they did not belong to Trump. If they are still classified (which is a  matter for legal debate), Trump himself signed a law making it a felony to retain them at an unauthorized location. Presidential records must be kept under the control of the National Archives, I  am not going to automatically assume the worst until we get more answers.



      August 14, 2022 8:21 PM MDT
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  • 34251
    If it is illegal for him to be in possession, why did the GSA pack, seal and then mail them to Mar a Lago? 
      August 15, 2022 8:48 AM MDT
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  • 10996
    I have said repeatedly that there are way too many unanswered questions to draw any conclusions. All I  care about at this point is that facts are accurate. Watch this if you are interested in seeing another side of what you think are facts. I apologize that it's from CNN,  but it contains statements from the National Archives and the GSA, which have also been published elsewhere.  It may not affect your beliefs,  but at least you know where the other side is coming from.
    This post was edited by Jane S at August 15, 2022 11:17 AM MDT
      August 15, 2022 9:21 AM MDT
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  • 34251
    In your video, CNN starts off with a "fact-check" that is inaccurate. Saying that Obama did not take documents. He did they were sent to his foundation in Hoffman Estates. 

    So yes, facts would be nice.  But in this political climate they are hard to find. 

    Obama did indeed take 30M docs to Chicago (Hoffman Estates) to be digitized....they have not been.  The agreement  between Obama Foundation and NARA Archivist was signed on Sept 21, 2018, it confirms the records were at Hoffman Estates, not NARA facility, on Sept 11, 2018 (date of the agreement)...this is 18 months after Obama left office. 

    https://www.obama.org/wp-content/uploads/BOF-NARA-LOI.pdf 
      August 15, 2022 11:16 AM MDT
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  • 10996
    Ok
      August 15, 2022 11:59 AM MDT
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  • 11102
    The GSA didn't pack up his stuff it was Trump and his aids. Cheers!


    https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/trump-frantically-packed-documents-him-022010173.html
      August 15, 2022 9:51 AM MDT
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  • 34251

    The boxes contain documents and mementos from Trump’s presidency, reportedly including letters from Barack Obama and Kim Jong Un, and other correspondence with world leaders.

    A legal source said that the boxes had been packed up by the General Services Administration and shipped to Mar-a-Lago when Trump left office in January 2020.

    Trump’s attorneys, led by Evan Corcoran, had been cooperating fully with federal authorities on the return of the documents to the National Archives and Records Administration, according to sources.

    https://nypost.com/2022/08/09/fbi-even-searched-melanias-wardrobe-in-trump-raid/

      August 15, 2022 10:49 AM MDT
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  • 11102
    Trump did have the power to declassify documents well he was in office (he lost that power when he left office) and once he declassified a document (well in office) that folder would get a declassified stamp. The classified documents  in the 20 plus sets of boxes Trump had at his home didn't have that stamp on them they still were stamped classified. And the recite the FBI gave to Trump's lawyer would confirm that. Mar a Lago might have a safe room but the documents weren't in that safe room they were in a storage room in the basement  with a padlock on the door (probably a cheep padlock) and the recite the FBI gave would confirm that too. Cheers and happy weekend! This post was edited by Nanoose at August 13, 2022 8:46 PM MDT
      August 13, 2022 9:29 AM MDT
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  • 34251
    Does not have to be restamped...for a POTUS to declassify something.    
    There was a standing order that any docts he brought home for review were declassified.  
      August 14, 2022 6:39 PM MDT
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  • 10635
    trump is an ahole.  he has teh blood of this country on his hands.   Not just in people, but the literal nation.  he's been waging a self-absorbed war against this nation from before he even took office.  On one side is him and his massive ego, on the other is America.  and the people are taking sides.
      August 12, 2022 1:05 PM MDT
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  • 34251
    They got him. (The idiot with a nail gun)

    Just because someone supports a politician does not mean they are responsible for the crazies actions. No one blamed Bernie when his crazy supporter shot up a bunch of politicians playing baseball.
      August 12, 2022 6:28 PM MDT
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  • 11102
    He also had a gun. If you feed a dog enough red meat the dog will get mean. Trump fed red meat (BS) to his people 24/7 and they got mean so he is responsible for the violence. Cheers and happy weekend! This post was edited by Nanoose at August 13, 2022 12:00 PM MDT
      August 13, 2022 11:59 AM MDT
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