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So, basically, there is no way we're saving the planet?

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-01599-5

Posted - May 15

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  • 43386
    Too late and too many of us. The planet will survive long after we are gone. We are too late to save us. Pity.
      May 15, 2023 7:34 PM MDT
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  • 7680
    We all are toast basically.
      May 15, 2023 8:22 PM MDT
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  • 1436
    Hey! Zack! Toast was from Jay who died young because he was busted up about everything that was what it shouldn't be besides his own arty brain. RIP my friend Jay 1963 to 2018 because you found peace where no peace  of mind was to be found. They called you such a private person but you felt more then most. This post was edited by CosmicWunderkind at May 16, 2023 4:38 PM MDT
      May 15, 2023 8:39 PM MDT
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  • 12474
    What solution do you propose?
      May 15, 2023 10:34 PM MDT
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  • 796
    Oh Stu! If any of us were that smart, we wouldn't be hanging around on Answermug.
      May 16, 2023 1:29 PM MDT
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  • 955
    Violence, obviously.
      May 16, 2023 4:39 PM MDT
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  • 31157
    The normal solution is tax the US and give the money to other countries.  That is literally what the Paris Accord does. 
    When they get off their private planes, I might believe we have a serious problem.   Just one coast to coast flight in a private plane (21mt) emits more carbon than 1 person driving their car for 4 1/2yrs. (4.6mt)
      May 17, 2023 5:20 AM MDT
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  • 31157
    The planet is fine.  There is and always will be climate change.  We are at the end of the ice age (there is still ice....we are still in the ice age)  as we get closer to the end of it, the temperature will increase slightly.   Because of the SUN....not because of human activity.  

    Carbon is not the cause of warming....it is the effect. 
      May 16, 2023 5:38 AM MDT
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  • 15882
    Conveniently ignoring the fact that the ocean is full of plastic, the air is full of toxins from the profligate burning of fossil fuels (its not all about CO2), more species have gone extinct in the last 200 years than in ANY period of similar time since the space rock killed the dinosaurs ...
      May 16, 2023 6:24 PM MDT
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  • 31157
    I simply addressed the topic of the article linked.  
      May 16, 2023 7:57 PM MDT
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  • 955
    I suppose it's not impossible that everyone at Nature (the journal) is wrong...
      May 16, 2023 6:30 PM MDT
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  • 31157
    Follow the money....most climatologists are. 
      May 16, 2023 7:54 PM MDT
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  • 955
    How many honest scientists do you believe there are? About... 1 in 10,000? Fewer; more?
      May 17, 2023 5:22 PM MDT
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  • 12474
    What proof do you have that scientists are dishonest?
      May 17, 2023 5:51 PM MDT
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  • 955
    Me? None.
      May 17, 2023 5:54 PM MDT
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  • 12474
    Then your previous comment could be considered libelous.
      May 17, 2023 7:36 PM MDT
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  • 31157
    Actually Danilo_G was not being libelous in any way.....you should reread all the posts in the answer thread you replied in. 
      May 18, 2023 6:04 AM MDT
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  • 12474
    I did. But accusing pepole of dishonesty without proof could be considered libelous. This post was edited by Stu Spelling Bee at May 18, 2023 7:52 AM MDT
      May 18, 2023 7:52 AM MDT
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  • 955
    There has been some sort of misunderstanding here, Stu. And the results is that my2cents protected me in a climate discussion :p
      May 18, 2023 5:09 PM MDT
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  • 31157
    Again....reread the the posts.
      May 18, 2023 5:12 PM MDT
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  • 12474
    I did
      May 18, 2023 6:22 PM MDT
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  • 15882
    The key words are "do you think". Danilo isn't accusing the scientists of dishonesty, m2c is with her "follow the money" comment. Accusing them of accepting bribes (actually the deniers are doing that, from Big Oil).
      May 18, 2023 8:50 PM MDT
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  • 31157
    It is not even so much bribes, but they know what happens to scientists who disagree....they loose money, they loose grants, they loose jobs....
      May 19, 2023 4:54 AM MDT
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  • 955
    Don't you feel like there are many other people who think the way you do about global warming? Seems to me like there would be enough money in corroborating your views, if proper science allowed for it. (Those who contradict geoscientists' conclusions often do so by misrepresenting the latter's own work.)

    There's no doubt that many huge corporations in oil, mining, cattle ranching etc. would pay massive sums to scientists who could demonstrate that greenhouse gases work the way they would want them to... At least it could spare them the necessity of spending millions on lobbying conservative politicians. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jul/19/big-oil-climate-crisis-lobby-group-api
      June 1, 2023 7:14 PM MDT
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