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Is Trumps new executive order going to help or hinder the homeless?

Trump’s new order redirects federal funds to ensure that homeless people are transferred to rehabilitation centers and other facilities.

It sounds good - but I have to wonder what Trump has in mind when he say’s “other facilities”. Hitler had homeless people moved to “other facilities” but back then they called them considerations camps. Cheers!

Posted - July 27
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  • 11883
    I'm sure his only goal is to help the unfortunate and it will be done in the same humane and orderly way that undocumented immigrants are being rounded up and detained. His goal is probably not just moving the problem to where rich folks don't have to see it. During his campaign, he talked about building facilities on unused lands outside the cities. I expect he has a plan for increasing the needed resources that are in short supply in urban areas and in even shorter supply farther out. He must also have a plan for keeping them from returning  to areas where they aren't wanted, like fences and armed guards. As for 'concentration camps', a concentration camp is defined as a guarded compound for mass detention without hearing for targeted demographics. Not the same thing...or is it?
      July 27, 2025 1:02 PM MDT
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  • 4706
    If these folks are going to be sent to facilities without their consent, then they are being detained in concentration camps.
      July 28, 2025 7:29 AM MDT
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  • 11883
    Exactly. 
      July 28, 2025 10:07 AM MDT
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  • 35514
    Illegal alien is not a demographic.  An illegal alien can be any race, gender, age, etc. 
      July 29, 2025 11:20 AM MDT
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  • 11883
    Firstly, yes it is and, secondly,  we were discussing the homeless, which is a also a demographic. A demographic is a segment of population with certain common characteristics. In addition to what you listed it can include citizenship, economic status, interest in motorcycles or just about anything that members of that population group have in common. MAGA is a demographic. 
      July 29, 2025 11:30 AM MDT
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  • 4706
    I can't wait to see the effects when the Department of Education is eliminated.
      July 29, 2025 11:49 AM MDT
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  • 11883
    The DOE was created in 1980. It wasn't there for you and me, and it might not have the benefits that you expected. 
      July 29, 2025 1:56 PM MDT
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  • 4706
    Forgive me, I was being sarcastic. :)
      July 29, 2025 4:21 PM MDT
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  • 35514
    I was wrong. That is what I get for trusting google.... it was saying no because it did not like my using the legal term illegal alien.   
    I should know better....
      July 29, 2025 2:52 PM MDT
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  • 11883
    Google must have it in for you.  I just asked and it confirmed what I thought.

      July 29, 2025 4:20 PM MDT
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  • 35514
    It gets them into the system so they can get the help they need to because a productive member of society.  Or at least not a danger to themselves and/or others. 

    They will get help with drug addiction,  mental health issues, etc. 
      July 27, 2025 1:02 PM MDT
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  • 11844

    I figure part of his plan is to claim certain states (like California) aren't following his order so he will send in the military or nation guard to do it for them. That way he figures he will look like a tuff guy and get back at certain states.  Cheers!

      July 27, 2025 1:19 PM MDT
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  • 11883
    Trump might want to read the section of the Constitution that requires due process before depriving someone of their liberty. If he was really interested in getting help for the mentally ill and those suffering from addiction,  he would be making treatments more accessible and affordable instead of cutting healthcare assistance.  As a country, we can choose how to allocate our tax dollars and I believe we are making poor choices. We need representatives who work for their constituents instead of their donors. 
      July 27, 2025 10:14 PM MDT
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  • 35514
    Healthcare has not been cut. People who should never have been on it to start have been removed. Fraud has been removed.   
    They saved several Billions of dollars just by correcting the system that had people enrolled in more than one medicaid program in more than one state.  (No one lost coverage, everyone kept the one plan that they were rightfully entitled to be enrolled in) 
    Also deporting illegals will release some of the resources that they were using. Supply and demand, deportation will remove some of the demand for everything. 
      July 28, 2025 5:53 AM MDT
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  • 11883
    So much here that has been proven false. But I don't have the time, energy or interest to begin to explain it. 
    Just as I don't see any documentation from you to support your claims. 
      July 28, 2025 8:11 AM MDT
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  • 35514
    https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/press-releases/cms-finds-28-million-americans-potentially-enrolled-two-or-more-medicaid/aca-exchange-plans

    2.8 million people double enrolled, saved  $14 Billion.
    saved.
    Illegals who we were told do not get medicaid but somehow, IL, CA and MN are all cutting medicaid for illegals.   That is was taxpayer money that was funding those problems.   (State tax money is still taxpayer money)



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      July 28, 2025 1:25 PM MDT
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  • 11883
    Medicaid will be cut by a trillion dollars over the next 10 years, so if accurate, that $14B is not gonna cover it. 
      July 28, 2025 1:47 PM MDT
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  • 35514
    Tariffs will possibly hit $300B this year that is $3T in 10 yrs.  So there you go. 
      July 29, 2025 10:59 AM MDT
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  • 11883
    I hadn't heard any talk of using tariffs to fund Healthcare, but there we go.
      July 29, 2025 11:20 AM MDT
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  • 4706
    "Potentially" does not mean it's a fact.  It means it's a possibility, not that it has already happened.

    "sed to say that something may develop into something
    synonym - possibly
    https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/potentially

    "sed to describe the possible results or effects of something"
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/potentially

    "sed to say you are not certain
    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/potentially

    Therefore, your "proof" is not conclusive.
      July 29, 2025 12:02 PM MDT
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  • 35514
    We just broke the record for monthly tariff revenue again for July and it is not over yet. 

    Why is it a bad thing to remove people who were enrolled in more than one medicaid program and eliminate that waste. Or to require able bodied working aged people to work a whole 80 hrs a month?   

    I always thought people wanted to get rid of waste and fraud but I guess I was wrong.
      July 29, 2025 2:13 PM MDT
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  • 4706
    Nice attempt at diversion.  Your "proof" that people are double-dipping is not based on fact.  That was the point I addressed.  

    Until I know what the money receied from tariffs is going to be used for, I can't comment.  For all we know, that money will be used to refurbish and retrofit Trump's gold covered plane from Qatar.  
      July 29, 2025 3:59 PM MDT
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  • 11883
    The money to upgrade the Qatari plane has been taken from defense funding. Something to do with nuclear safety. Almost $1B, so no biggie. 
      July 29, 2025 4:27 PM MDT
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  • 11844

    Seems like ICE has been arresting people based on the color of their skin. Maybe law enforcement will do something similar with this homeless thing.

    Is this person homeless or on his way home from his construction job. 


    Cheers!

      July 28, 2025 7:54 AM MDT
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