I dunno. Someone once said if a God did not exist man would have invented one anyway. Which is the case for the God in vugue at present most likely. Can't seem to eliminate them because they keep evolving ever since the concept began. They are non- belief resistant.
People who think that do not understand the exercise.
In order to REACH God, those are the tools. God does not need.
Period.
If you forsake all your desires and only focus on the GOD force, you will have bliss.
Those are the rules. God does not need us. We need GOD.
God does not need worship. We do. When we fall in love, what is the first emotion we feel? Adoration. Bliss and a misplaced need to feel this feeling.
So, we pick another person. That person is not permanent. God is permanent. God never leaves. That is the reason for the worship. Not because God demands it. We are exposed to the idea that we are never alone and we are loved beyond any measure we feel we need. That is cause for worship if you understand what you have been given.
Next. Gratitude. God doesn't need that. It is a gift for us. When you have no gratitude? You might as well be dead. You are in hell. You are just existing. When you look around and see all that has been given, and are grateful, you feel content and full of love.
That is why. Not because God wants it. Because we need that to express our divinity within out own beings.
Humans are silly and self-centered. When we realize and become aware of our own divinity we do not act like GOD is demanding. We want to give all we can to this force that does nothing but GIVE BACK to those who know how to reap the reward.
It would be nice if you waited until I stopped typing at least I would know you really read this. Maybe that is why you don't believe in anything.
This post was edited by WM BARR . =ABSOLUTE TRASH at October 10, 2017 10:41 PM MDT
If I stopped thinking then I would have only two instincts: 'grabbing the grub and making babies.
I believe the existence of an invisible force within myself -which some people refer to as their higher power- that seems dormant but can become particularly activated when suitably inspired. The subconscious is the mind that is in control.
This post was edited by Kittigate at October 10, 2017 12:16 PM MDT
I'll try to answer your question from a Christian perspective without trying to start an argument and hopefully doesn't end up in one. Worship is “to give honor, homage, reverence, respect, adoration, praise, or glory to a superior being.” God demands worship because He and He alone is worthy of it. He is the only being that truly deserves worship. He requests that we acknowledge His greatness, His power, and His glory. Revelation 4:11 says “You are worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power; For You created all things, And by Your will they exist and were created.”
That is a concept that most unbelievers/Atheists can't grasp or simply don't want too. That said, it is a concept that even some believers/Christians can't grasp. However, although GOD demands worship, He doesn't "need" worship. GOD doesn't need anything.
When someone is extended generosity and yet that person does not respond in kind others will think that person an ingrate. The least that person can do is show a degree of appreciation. Common sense dictates as much.
A couple of good friends who have helped me along at times, family people who are pretty sane and sober folks, my good health due to modern medical facilities, born/living in Canada; lotsa little things. I show application by being a decent citizen of my city/province/country and this world -help people when needs be..
" what else..?" ---------------- why not what one has which some wish they had? That could include anything from full-colour sight, hearing, speech, beauty, good healthy children, etc
Doesn't the "No 'who' that I can think of.to thank" trouble the part of normal human nature that almost instinctively wants to thank? Almost everyone one must have quiet, reflective, contemplative moments during which one feels gratitude for "all the little mercies one feels blessed with". How would one in your position handle that? "Thank one's lucky stars" perhaps?
I wasn't for a minute suggesting you do it my way or anyone else's way. You HAVE to do it your way, of course, otherwise it would be meaningless and senseless.
I appreciate that to people who've never done it my way, my way must be mysterious. So in the interest, and good cause, of getting to know one another better I'm quite happy to fully describe my way to anyone good, or curious enough, to want to know. There's nothing secret or shameful about it.
I don't do it your way [that's a presumption, of course, because I don't now what it is] and therefore I'm naturally curious. If your way is secret or you just don't want to share it, that's fine and I understand.
I suppose it is looked at like any other relationship, if you feel someone has helped you then you thank them, and keep a communication with them, I'm sure that God doesn't need our worship, but more worship is a sign of humility as the ego can be a insidious thing. People get comfort in the thought that a higher power is there for them where as humans can be so volatile and mortal. But Jesus said “Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you, " so you don't have to go to far for a relationship with God.
Thing is when you think about science answer to what we are, in the smallest unit we are energy vibrating at a certain level, and this isn't far off from what Nicola Tesla said many years ago when he died alone and penniless in his room.
It must be very difficult for someone who demands proof from the five senses when we are energy vibrating at a certain level? Science isn't the answer to everything it is a method to try and get to the closest answer, but to do that they have to resort to mathematics, again if the beginning question is wrong, the outcome can be off. Descartes explored this philosophy as have many philosophers, as such many followed the gnostic and hermetic belief from the mystery religions.
Many famous scientists had revelations in dreams, the dream world was thought to be a very powerful sense which is sadly not taken into account anymore.
Funny because when it comes to energy and vibration many believers have no difficulty with science, God said "Let there be light" which is a vibration. God spoke things into existence, first was the word. Many prophets also dreamt the future called seers.
Descartes built the basic concept of the scientific method, he dreamt a demon visited him in the kitchen. Descartes also wrote mediations on Evil demon and Cartesian doubt which led to his famous saying Cogito ergo sum.
August Kekele dreamt of the organisation of the atom. He dreamt of a snake the ouroboros which is again another ancient symbol from Egyptian often seen in Gnosticism and Hermeticism. Seeing the snake as a form of reincarnation, or endless time, often Saturn/chromos was a representative of time seen with snake feet.
Hermes was representing in the Hermetic principle, and the caduceus is seen on medicine today, Hermes was also Mercury he was a god of the Merchant, a trickster and leader to Hades.
The Caduceus is still seen held by Russian priests
Also seen between Baphomets legs....
Also Carl Jung a man who built much of the "psychology model" along with his cocaine snorting acquaintance Freud, had a lesser known publication called The Red book..
Back to Satanism, so if you don't believe in God, how about Satan? The adversary, the tempter, do you believe in him or that? What would he do I wonder?
I don't mind saying that I'll gladly praise and worship Him for a thousand good reasons. At the top of the list is the fact that He is the great "I am" power, might, glory, majesty, creator, master designer, seat of all wisdom and understanding, heart of love and compassion, seat of mercy and grace, and so on. The very fact that I am a mere speck in the grand scheme of things and He is cognizant of me makes me want to praise Him. Man was created for communion with God. There is nothing that can take the place of that desire.
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