No, I suppose they don't, but India allows people to starve and China engages in social engineering by forcing parents to cast aside all but one child. Those are great things, but I guess they're A-OK with you.
I agree, All to few people, on all political sides, have never read The Federalist Papers, A 'by mail' forum where the founding fathers discussed and found a lot of the solutions that got built into the constitution.
LOL, it's a pdf now. The Federalist originally was a series of 85 articles written by Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay in support of ratification of the US Constitution.
Overall observation: You can refute any argument by rejecting the evidence, calling things by different names, and/or insulting the opposition.
Luke 4:5 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. 6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.
"Delivered unto me," get it? Satan is the god of earthly authority.
Science is everything that can be measured. Spirit is everything that can not be measured. Love, goodness, dedication, and other such things are not imaginary just because they can't be measured. And your position is not supported by measurable evidence either. You are simply trying to win a conversation by rejecting all arguments that you don't like.
Or with which I disagree. Nobody needs to "win," whatever that means.
And consider the definition of evidence (your word of choice): the availability of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid. What facts or information can you offer that your belief in Satan is valid? The only thing you offer is your belief itself in something whose very existence cannot be verified or measured. That makes Satan imaginary not only in fact, but by definition.
If by "winning," you mean one party running rings around another logically, then I graciously accept victory, thanks, although that wasn't my concern as much as it apparently was yours.
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How do you know you are right? There is no evidence of rightness and wrongness except a list of rules by which we judge the logic, and that list is invisible. Agreement is only possible when we use the same list. So you are contradicting yourself when you speak of evidence about anything in the spirit realm. The spirit realm is powered by believing and wisdom, not evidence and logic. That means you can not discuss love, or loyalty, or even agreement between you and me, because those things are not measurable. The only thing real in your world is which of us can beat the snot out of the other. So we really have nothing to discuss because everything is determined only by a struggle.
I am right and, conversely, you are wrong because it cannot be proven objectively that anything in the spirit realm, including your buddy Satan, actually exists. It's quite simple and that's all there is to it. You're a smart person - I'm surprised I needed to spell it out for you.
I am surprised that you refuse to see that you are demonstrating everything I say!
People who espouse socialism while calling it something else do exactly the same thing. They think they have invented a new idea when actually they refuse to see that it's the same as the old idea.
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Stu Spelling Bee 