Would you still find a way to convince yourself it's not true or would you become a believer
Rpf, pick one. lol
1) Of course not. There could be an invisible pink unicorn standing next to me right now; I can't prove it isn't there. Maybe some day we'll have the means of detecting it. A less fanciful example would be the new information about the existence of smaller and different subatomic particles. Some of which are still being discovered in this day and age. Who knows what further will be discovered about them?
2) Fair enough.
If there was a way to prove it for sure, I would believe, of course.
I think that this is something where to have 100% certainty is essentially impossible.
It would have to be something with which you were confronted every moment and which was utterly irrefutable to each and every individual on earth.
If humans have a break from something, they can extremely quickly gaslight themselves into explaining or ignoring evidence. I am not convinced that the question is valid.
If you have 100% certainty about something, you are required to believe in it. It is literally impossible to have 100% certainty and /not/ believe it.
in response to Nimitz's "I wouldn't want to subject MY progeny to the whim of such a sadistic freak as the Islamic 'god.'"
1- are you a person who SUBJECTS his progeny to things?
2- would not your progeny have at a certain stage [if you were the controlling dictator in 1, then after your death] be free to choose what they wanted to?
3- Did your parents subject you to have such hateful thoughts towards a religion of others?
4- IF Islam were proved to be 100% right then you'd have lived your life under this God anyway. How would this God change after it's proved to you that he does exist. Would your realisation that he does really exist suddenly make him also realise that he does really exist?
Reason and hate never did mix well.
I wouldn't need to "believe", it would just be a fact of life and we'd all just get on with it. Maybe peoples' energies would be better focused on here and now, on earth, rather than on the pursuit of an elusive fantasy. It would be an improvement, in my opinion, if He would just show himself and stop playing these silly games.
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First, I can understand people ACCEPTING [on faith/trust, inferences and circumstantial evidence] with 100% certainty that God exists but I'm not sure how anyone would "find out with 100% certainty that God exists"
2- I think when humanity FINDS OUT with 100% certainty that God exists it'll probably be too late.
3- Anyway if ANY individual SOMEHOW reaches a 100% certainty that God exists he has to believe. How can he not believe? If he is standing in the middle of the road and has 100% certainty that the car approaching him at speed is real how can he not believe. He will either jump out of the way or commit suicide.
I took it as, and I think it was intended as, a hypothetical question. I may be wrong.
I think my answer covers the hypothetical situation as well.
indeed even after it was proven that the earth is not flat there were still people around who questioned then proof and continued to live as before with no change in their belief about the earth's shape
I'd resume chanting "Hare Krishna" which in foregone years I estimate I chanted over 690,000 times.
You would continue to believe in something that's been proven doesn't exist.
The question asked what if god had been proven. My response replied to that hypothetical circumstance.
I don't believe God exists, but I also don't believe God doesn't exist so I guess I'd just continue not caring if it exists or not.
Contradiction. Nothing can both exist and not exist.
I don't know or care if it exists or not. I'm confused..
I'd continue to live my life based on the same values I use today. Btw, good point by Rpf.
1) I don't see evidence for a lot of things, but I don't automatically assume they don't exist. :-) If you ask me, drawing any conclusions about the existence of anything on its ability or willingness to conform to our limited standards of evidence/proof is absurd. Did radio waves and cosmic radiation not exist prior to our developing the means to detect them? Did bacteria or viruses not exist prior to our developing the means to detect them? We certainly had no evidence so, by the standard you've applied here, they surely couldn't have existed. Right?
2) If I found out with 100 percent certainty that Islam was the one true religion, in all likelihood I'd have myself castrated and/or terminate my existence. I wouldn't want to subject MY progeny to the whim of such a sadistic freak as the Islamic 'god.'
Nothing. I live the kind of life I want to live. I aspire to be the kind of person I want to be. Being the best Christian I could be would be just as important to me as it is now.
BTW, it wouldn't be believing if one KNEW that God existed to a degree of 100 percent. :-)