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When democracy crumbles and fails in America what form of government would you think might happen as a substitute?

Eg. Banana Republic, Constitutional Monarchy...

"A country that cannot even agree to investigate an assault on its own capital is in big trouble indeed"
-The New Yorker

Posted - July 24, 2021

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  • 16777
    Communism - only because karma.
      July 25, 2021 12:00 AM MDT
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  • 2999
    Communism is attempting a take over as we speak.  They have a good foot hold on us now, so many have been deceived.  If you wonder how great communism is, ask someone who lives in Cuba.  
      July 25, 2021 8:47 AM MDT
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  • 13277
    take over takeover
      July 26, 2021 5:44 PM MDT
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  • 2999
    Thank you.  You made my day. 
      July 26, 2021 5:50 PM MDT
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  • 13277
      July 26, 2021 6:41 PM MDT
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  • 16777
    (Laughs in Chinese)
      July 29, 2021 6:36 PM MDT
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  • 34270
    We do not have a Democracy.

    USA is a REPUBLIC.

    If we were to fall.....it would break up into multiple countries. Coasts likely to go socialist.  Middle of the country would try to get a republic back. This post was edited by my2cents at July 28, 2021 5:20 PM MDT
      July 25, 2021 9:07 AM MDT
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  • 13395
    A REPUBIC...? That's original. Please explain.
      July 25, 2021 9:28 AM MDT
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  • 34270
    • A government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives responsible to them and governing according to law. Without a monarchy, chief of state is normally referred to as a president.

    republic is a government in which a restricted group of citizens form a political unit, usually under the auspice of a charter, which directs them to elect representatives who will govern the state. Republics, by their very nature, tend to be free polities, not because they are elected by the citizens of the polity, but because they are bound by charters, which limit the responsibilities and powers of the state. The fact that people vote for representatives has nothing to do with making anything free. The logical consistency and rationality of the charter, as well as the willingness of the people to live by it, is what keeps people free.

    (USA is a republic of the people by the people our charter is the Constitution)

    democracy is government by the majority. There is still a restricted group of citizens in a democracy, but this group rules directly and personally runs the state. The group may delegate specific tasks to individuals, such as generalships and governorships, but there is no question that the ruling force in a democracy is not a charter (if there even is a charter), but the vote of the majority. Democracies are free only if the people know what freedom is and are consistent in their application of it. If they don’t know this, or more appropriately, if a majority of the people don’t know this, then a democracy could be just as tyrannical as the worst dictator (see Socrates’ forced suicide by the Athenian democracy.)


    (Democracy is rule of the majority....mob rule)

      July 25, 2021 9:52 AM MDT
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  • 13395
    Ok thanks very  helpful but that does not explain a REPUBIC.
      July 25, 2021 9:59 AM MDT
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  • 34270
    A republic is a government of citizens elected by their fellow citizens to represent them in the government.  A Republic has a (charter) set of rules they use to protect all citizens even the minority.  In the USA, the people vote for citizens to represent them in the Congress (both in the House and the Senate).  We also vote for the chief officer...the President.  Our charter is the US Constitution it protects the rights of every citizen....even if the person they voted for did not win the election.  
      July 25, 2021 10:06 AM MDT
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  • 13395
    Ok thanks again. Maybe you should change REPUBIC to REPUBLIC in your first reply.

    Reading glasses anybody?
      July 25, 2021 10:13 AM MDT
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  • 34270
    Ok should I call you Randy Jr.? 
      July 25, 2021 10:17 AM MDT
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  • 13395
    No RandyD does his thing mostly just to annoy people. I am trying to be helpful.
      July 25, 2021 10:20 AM MDT
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  • 34270
    Oh.....
      July 25, 2021 2:54 PM MDT
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  • 13277
    REPUBIC REPUBLIC
      July 26, 2021 5:45 PM MDT
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  • 757
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      July 26, 2021 5:52 PM MDT
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  • 13395
    Whatever makes you feel good.

    My country is a Parliamentary Democracy. This post was edited by Kittigate at July 29, 2021 5:46 PM MDT
      July 26, 2021 6:51 PM MDT
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  • 11106
    Yes we are and I think it is  good system of government. Cheers!
      July 26, 2021 7:12 PM MDT
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  • 13395
    Sure it is, works perfectly or at least almost perfectly.
      July 26, 2021 7:24 PM MDT
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  • 757
    Moonshine makes me feel good, and so does good marijuana. 


      July 26, 2021 8:03 PM MDT
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  • 16777
    "Ah, yes, the 'inalienable rights'. Each year someone quotes that magnificent poetry. Life? What 'right' to life has a man who is drowning in the Pacific? The ocean will not hearken to his cries. What 'right' to life has a man who must die if he is to save his children? If he chooses to save his own life, does he do so as a matter of 'right'? If two men are starving and cannibalism is the only alternative to death, which man's right is 'inalienable'? And is it 'right'?
    As to liberty, the heroes who signed the great document pledged themselves to purchase liberty with their lives. Liberty is never inalienable; it must be redeemed regularly with the blood of patriots or it always vanishes. Of all the so-called natural human rights that have ever been invented, liberty is the least likely to be cheap and is never free of cost.
    The third 'right'? - the 'pursuit of happiness'? It is indeed inalienable but it is not a right; it is simply a universal condition which tyrants cannot take away nor patriots restore. Cast me into a dungeon, burn me at the stake, crown me king of kings, I can 'pursue happiness' as long as my brain lives - but neither gods nor saints, wise men nor subtle drugs, can insure that I will catch it."
    - Robert A Heinlein, Starship Troopers
    As for "property", you added that (it is not in the declaration) neither is it a 'right'. It requires money, which not everyone is able to earn. This post was edited by Slartibartfast at July 29, 2021 7:00 PM MDT
      July 29, 2021 6:05 PM MDT
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  • 16777
    Read Heinlein's Friday. The middle of the country becomes a dictatorship.
      July 25, 2021 5:08 PM MDT
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  • 34270
    Just like Trump is a supposed dictator...

    Conservatives are not into the gov having control over us. Much less any dictator.   
      July 26, 2021 6:11 AM MDT
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