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Stewart Rhodes jailed for 18 years for sedition. How does this affect His Royal Orangeness?

Surely this scuttles his campaign? Even if he manages to weasel his way out of being convicted himself for Jan 6, calling the Oath Keepers "good people" is undeniably offering comfort - so he's constitutionally ineligible to hold office! Or am I misreading Section III of the Fourteenth Amendment?

Posted - May 27, 2023
Tag : 14th Amendment

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  • 13277
    A hundred or more years ago, he would have been sentenced to hang, just like the eight conspirators in President Lincoln’s assassination.
      May 27, 2023 10:51 PM MDT
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  • 16821
    Trump has also stated, publicly,  that if re-elected he will pardon all of those involved - so that nails it down. Slam dunk, offering comfort to persons guilty of sedition.
      May 27, 2023 10:58 PM MDT
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  • 34428
    He did not say all. He said he would look at the individual cases and pardons would be on the table.
      May 28, 2023 5:27 AM MDT
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  • 11149
    At the Town Hall thing Trump said - He would pardon a large portion of them and it'll be very early on." Cheers!
      May 28, 2023 8:51 AM MDT
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  • 34428
    A large portion  does NOT equal ALL.  


      May 28, 2023 1:29 PM MDT
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  • 16821
    Yet all of the Confederates got off Scot free. They should have built a gallows for Robert E Lee and Jefferson Davis, not put up statues of them.
      May 29, 2023 7:27 PM MDT
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  • 13277
    That was Lincoln’s call. And Lee and Davis were not connected to the assassination.
      May 29, 2023 8:58 PM MDT
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  • 34428
    It has nothing to do with Trump.  But the left will continue to grasp at straws. 

    Trump is not going to jail.
    Trump is not going to be executed for treason.
    Trump is not going to be barred from holding office. 
      May 28, 2023 5:34 AM MDT
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  • 16821
    Screwed, blued and tattooed, darling. As usual, Trumpicans will continue to excuse all sorts of behaviour (bigotry, racism, misogyny and outright treason etc) but you have completely failed to provide ANY alternative interpretation of the 14th which clears him.
      May 28, 2023 5:55 AM MDT
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  • 2132
    From personal experience, I had a co-worker friend who was in his own small room and one day yelled "Eff Trump!!!" and then threw a big hard object loud against the door. This post was edited by CosmicWunderkind at May 28, 2023 9:55 AM MDT
      May 28, 2023 6:02 AM MDT
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  • 13277
    That certainly accomplished a lot.
      May 28, 2023 9:56 AM MDT
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  • 34428
    To be disqualified the Senate would have to vote on it....we both know that is not going to happen. 

    You are going with the assumption of guilt,  that is not how it works. 
      May 28, 2023 6:07 AM MDT
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  • 16821
    Different rules than for impeachment, a simple majority is all that is needed for this one - and as of right now the Democrats have that, even WITHOUT a casting vote from Kamala. The Democrats actually gained a Senate seat at the midterms, have you forgotten that?
      May 29, 2023 7:32 PM MDT
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  • 34428
    Yet, they have not called for the vote. 
    And they will not be calling for that vote, unless they are ready to lose their elections.  
      
      May 30, 2023 5:39 AM MDT
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  • 3907
    Hello S:

    Couple things.  I don't think Rhodes conviction will affect Trump at all.  He'd     have to be convicted of sedition before the 14th kicks in.  And he called the Nazi's fine people - not the oath keepers..  It's a distinction without a difference, but not illegal in any case.


    excon
      May 28, 2023 6:25 AM MDT
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  • 34428
    Trump did not call the Nazis in Charlottesville fine people.  The fine people where the people who were there to peacefully protest the removal of historic statues and for the removal of historic Statues. (Fine people on both sides) 

    "I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally.."

      May 28, 2023 6:36 AM MDT
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  • 13277
    ”there to peacefully protest the removal of historic statues and for the removal of historic statues.”

    Huh? You must work in the Department of Redundancy Department, lol.
      May 28, 2023 9:52 AM MDT
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  • 34428
    Read it again...two groups opposite positions.  

    The other groups were the violent ones....again some were for the removal of statues and some were not.  But neither side of the violent groups were fine people. 
      May 28, 2023 12:44 PM MDT
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  • 13277
    OK
      May 28, 2023 1:17 PM MDT
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  • 11149
    I think how it will effect Trump is by getting him back into the Oath Keepers good book. They were mad at Trump after Jan. 6th - they said he showed weakness by not marching with them to the capital and keeping up the fight. They were also not happy that he didn't pardon them well he was still in office. So Trump will milk the Rhodes thing for all it is worth. Cheers!
      May 28, 2023 8:25 AM MDT
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  • 3907
    Hello S:

    Trump says he can declassify documents simply by thinking about it.. I think he's right.  Given that he has the absolute power to declassify documents, I think he has the same absolute power to pardon.  All Trump has to do, is mind meld a pardon.

    Let's be clear..  The judge SLAMMED Rhodes because he is UNREPENTANT, and said when he's free, he'll do it again..  This is the man Trump wants back on the street.

    God help us if he wins. 

    excon This post was edited by excon at May 28, 2023 9:41 AM MDT
      May 28, 2023 9:17 AM MDT
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  • 3819
    This is why I don't understand the judge not giving Rhodes the maximum, even if it was only two more years.  
      May 28, 2023 9:41 AM MDT
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