Was fox news right about Trump’s knowledge of history?

No, it isn't, but when you look at how short a time those business were in operation before they were closed, you can see what a poor businessman Trump was.  That also doesn't take into account his Truth Social venture which is losing money big time.

Stopping a product is NOT a bankruptcy.  Closing a business is also not a bankruptcy.   Those are business decisions that prevent bankruptcies. 

Bankruptcy is a legal process involving courts, debts, assets, etc. 

Yes, but the assertion was that somehow it makes Trump superior to other presidents because he lost money while in office. Now there is really no comparison because recent presidents put their assets in a blind trust and weren't business owners. Their revenue streams were from past deals, such a books they wrote. According to Forbes, who did quite a deep dive, Trump earned $550M while in office, which exceeds the net worth of other presidents. So, while this is quite an interesting way for MAGA to brag, it's unclear what they are proud of. 

You know how it is sometimes with these discussions, it doesn't end until there's a way to blame the left. 

I thought about that right after I hit "post reply."  Trump is the only one not to put his assets in a blind trust, so I'm no sure why he would be proud of anything underhanded that he did other than his M.O. is to be as underhanded as he can be.  He's proud as can be any time he can fleece anyone - in this case, the American taxpayers.    

How do you put property assets in a blind trust?  The man knows what properties he owns.  It is not stocks etc. 
And no one should be expected to lose their company/business because they won a political office. 
 

He doesn't own his properties in his name alone - he owns them in corporate names and he owns stock in those companies.  

His businesses have his name on them.  Just cannot blind trust that....and shouldn't have to.  

Just because the businesses have his name on them doesn't mean that he is the sole owner.  They are corporately owned. This post was edited by Spunky at October 28, 2024 9:47 AM MDT

So if he is not sole owner, it doesn't matter?  Somehow I don't think that is the case....

I was not implying that he could have put them in a blind trust, but rather pointing out that because other presidents were able to do so, they had less control over whether they increased or decreased their net worth. 

Understood.

I was not the one who brought up the Presidents and their pocketbooks.   But if it gets brought up....yes that is what is coming back. 

These discussion never end.  They just get continued on other questions once the thread gets too hard to follow one the first one.   The discussions continue because of posts trying to blame the right or MAGA right.  

Looks like you are right, I brought it up on the question.  

Trump wasn't the only president who lost money.  Thomas Jefferson died broke, "Despite making a profit in all of his political positions, Jefferson was broke by the time of his death. He had unsurmountable debt from loans and mismanagement of his assets, resulting in his family selling everything to stay afloat."

The salient point is WHY Trump lost money.  According to the link you provided:

"By the end of his presidency, Trump's net worth decreased to roughly $2.3 billion. This decline was attributed to legal challenges, business losses during the COVID-19 pandemic, and reduced revenue from his real estate holdings and other ventures."

So, much like Thomas Jefferson, his lack of business acumen is the cause of his losing money.

Ok....Only one in anyone here's lifetime.  

He lost money because leftists boycotted his properties and businesses.  Covid.  And leftists threatening that foreign leaders who chose to stay at one of his properties were bribing him.  So many avoided staying at them.

1991, 1992 and 2009 were pre-COVID.  Got any proof that leftists threatened those foreign leaders or are you just making things up as you go along?

Again I am not talking about the bankruptcies of the hotel/casinos.  Those are pre-Presidency.   

My statement was about Presidents that made money from being President.   All of them in our lifetime but Trump.

We both know the left was having fits that Trump continued to own properties and were screaming about the emoluments clause and foreign leaders staying at his properties.

The emoluments clause applies to all presidents, so why not Trump? I suppose you think it was OK for Trump to overcharge for hotel rooms and other expenses for his security entourage.  I don't care which party a president belongs to, they shouldn't be screwing the taxpayers.  But, I'm sure you feel differently because of who was doing the screwing.

And Trump had Ivanka and Jared on his presidential payroll.  

Trump was not in violation of the emoluments.   We have already argued this back when he was in office.  As least you are admitting it happened now. (Or at least claims of it) 

We can argue it again after he wins in a few days....

I am not admitting that he didn't violate the emolument laws.  There is no point in arguing the point because nothing I could say would make you see that he is nothing more than a charlatan who is out to fleece as many people as possible.  End of discussion.

If you read what I said, "As least you are admitting it happened now. (Or at least claims of it)"  
I did not claim you agreed, I said we can argue it again after Trump wins again.

I guess you didn't understand when I said "end of discussion".

Now you understand why I had to delete my response.