Can you see any flaws in Trump’s new plan?

There is something else to consider.  Immigrants/Migrants play a big role in agriculture, in meat packing plants, construction, nursing, home health aides, etc.  While construction may be able to attract legal residents, I don't see a lot of Americans picking fruits and veggies or olther low-paying jobs.  When there aren't anough others to replace these migrants, the cost of food and other services will increase.  That's a cost that doesn't seem to be factored in here.

From everything I've read or heard about the cost of undocumented immigrants, a strong argument can be made either way and I don't have access to enough data to make any determination. That said, my belief is that there are good reasons for prioritizing a path to legal residency for those currently here illegally or under TPS. Our population is declining and also aging; we need younger workers to fill certain jobs and to contribute to the economy and to the tax rolls including Social Security and Medicare. Spending money on immigration judges might be a better investment than deportation enforcement and transportation.

America has always treated immigrants badly. Many of are descended from groups that were once vilified just as the current groups are. For example, NINA was added to Help Wanted notices to clarify that no Irish need apply or alternately, no Italians need apply. Sometimes we are too focused on looking down our noses at the less fortunate, rather than doing what is in our own best interests. 

Funny, I had that same discussion with my neighbors just this afternoon.  We talked about how bad things would have to be for someone to leave their country, immigrate to a place where they likely know no one, possibly can't speak the language and know they aren't welcome.  They face all sorts of hardships along the way, yet they still come. For the most part, I believe they want to work rather than take handout.  All the want is to be able to live freely, take care of their families and enjoy life.  In the end, isn't that what we all want?

EDIT TO ADD:  I believe that those who were brought here as minors and who have lived in this country for decades, should have an immediate path to citizenship unless they are criminals or convicted felons.   This post was edited by Spunky at May 11, 2025 6:58 PM MDT

Yeah I was thinking that too.

Trump just deported three young children who are US citizens - including one with cancer - to Honduras alongside their mothers.

So I’m sure the immigrants don’t trust him. Cheers!

No, the Mother was being deported. She chose to take her children with her and the US gave the children a free plane ticket to join their Mother. 

The mother took the child with her because she was given no time to make other arrangements for the child.  What else was she supposed to do?  What would you have done - left your child at the home alone?

My child would go wherever I go...no calls needed. 
If you commit a crime, you know there maybe consequences to deal with later. (Entering this country illegally or staying in this country after your date to leave is a crime)   So you should be ready to deal with those consequences.  

If am arrested for a traffic violation, and my kids are with me. The police arrest me and take the kids.  No options. They call family services and they will make sure they are in a safe place. 

Now the Mother here was given an option:
1. Take your children with you
2. Leave your children with family services and they will take care of getting the children to a safe place.   
These are actually more options than a citizen would have.   

If you read how these cases went down, according to multiple reports, these mothers weren't give the time or opportunity to make arrangements for their children, or to contact family or lawyers and somehow this means that the mothers made the choice willingly according to right-wingers. I guess that helps them sleep at night.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/deported-moms-citizen-children-cancer-trump-officials-rcna203398

I read that one of the kids wasn't even giving the time to get dressed – she was herded out side in her underwear.
It doesn't seem very likely that a mother - that might of gone through great hardship and danger - for a chance at a better life – would choose to bring her kid to a country full of hardships and danger and not much chance for a better life. I bet the mother could of found someone to take care of her child in a heart beat but she wasn't giving the time to arrange it. Cheers!

It seems like cruelty is the point.

Given that the US is the land of the Second Amendment and if anyone was laying hands on my loved ones I'd be defending them, why haven't any ICE agents been shot yet?

The 2nd amendment does NOT apply to noncitizens....legal or illegal. 

It says "the people". It does NOT specify "citizens".

To pass the NCIC background check, you must be a citizen.  
This has been settled in the courts.  And upheld numerous times.

IlLEGALS are not part of We The People in the Construction.  This post was edited by my2cents at May 8, 2025 5:26 AM MDT

And the citizen spouses of "illegals" (some deportees are in the country legally, some granted refugee status and waiting for their citizenship application to be processed) are therefore allowed to be heeled. And defend their families.

No, 2nd amendment rights are for US citizens. And noncitizen with legal status would likely loose their legal status if they were found to have a firearm. 

So, are you now agreeing that the purpose of the 2nd amendment is defend ourselves from otjerd and even the government?

You missed the point. As usual. Several undocumented deportees are married to citizens who have full protection under the Bill of Rights, thus are permitted under this cockamamie amendment to be armed with anything from a slingshot to a Howitzer, and haven't yet gunned down any of Trumpler's Gestapo. Why haven't they if that's what it's for?

NO, they are not allowed to own/possession  of a  firearm regardless of citizenship of their spouse. 
Why has a citizen spouse shot a ICE agent? Perhaps they know that their spouse is illegal and do not want to add to the families legal troubles. Which shooting an law enforcement officer certainly would do. 

OK, you're DELIBERATELY missing the point. I'm talking about citizens whose spouses happen to be non-citizens. The citizens are permitted to be heeled and defending oneself and one's family against a tyrannical government is supposedly what the Second is all about.

If you read, the 2nd section of my reply, you will see I addressed why a citizen spouse has not shot an ICE agent. 

When ICE agents commit the illegal acts we've all seen video footage of, without displaying a warrant, shooting them absolutely falls under self-defense.

Then that would certainly be a possible defense in court.  
However, even if a law enforcement officer is behaving badly, legally I cannot just shot them.  You are supposed to follow their orders and deal with their inappropriate behavior later.  
My husband did this about 25 yrs ago, I know the officer was investigated by Internal Affairs and the officer was eventually fired.  My husband's name complaint was not the only complaint on this guy's record. 

For what reason would you need to pass a NCIC background check?

To purchase a legal firearm....