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easyjolene

Do you follow murder cases?

The most recent one for me is the father in Colorado who killed his wife and kids. I can not understand why people kill their children.

Posted - November 23, 2018
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  • 10026
    I love nothing better than to read a murder mystery.  Agatha Christie is one of my favorites.  Real murder cases, well, not so much.  I am like you and just "DON'T Get" why you would hurt and want to kill people you love or don't even know.  Even if you are mad at someone, this too, will pass.  I don't get it either so I only follow what the immediate news says.
    I didn't hear about the guy in Colorado.  Sick and Sad.  Now I have to ask.  Did he take his own life, too? This post was edited by Merlin at November 24, 2018 6:05 PM MST
      November 23, 2018 7:35 PM MST
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  • 23576
    I read Christie's "And Then There Were None." I thought it was fabulous!
    :)

    I'm not sure but I think easyjolene may be referring to Chris Watts and his family. I've only seen pictures of all of them. So incredible and crazy to me. And more unsettling to me for some reason is how "picture perfect" the family looks in photos.
      November 23, 2018 7:41 PM MST
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  • 976
    Yes, it's Chris Watts. The details of his actions are horrific. 
      November 23, 2018 7:55 PM MST
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  • 23576
    I only know the basic details but, those details of which I know, yes, I agree with you.
      November 23, 2018 7:58 PM MST
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  • 23576
    I just saw a bit of a news clip on him earlier this afternoon. Perhaps it's distasteful for me to mention but the first time I saw images of him, I found him incredibly, incredibly attractive. And his wife was beautiful, too. And children. I guess I already mentioned this in another comment.
      November 24, 2018 7:51 PM MST
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  • 10026
    I love her!  Hercule Poirot and Miss Marple are the most wonderful detectives and characters.  If you can, please do set aside a time to read one of her books.  They will take about an afternoon of delight.  Her books are never too long.  For me, they are just enough to get you lost in trying to figure them out.
    I know you are a movie buff and have great taste in music.  But, sticking on the movies, they made a book of hers a movie that you can watch in about a little over an hour.  It's, "Murder on the Orient Express."  There, you can get a taste of her style.
    I hope you have a chance to watch it and continue on to read some of her books.  She has written many.  
    Yipppeee!  Big Smiles! This post was edited by Merlin at November 24, 2018 7:41 PM MST
      November 24, 2018 4:06 PM MST
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  • 23576
    Yeah, I have read her "And Then There Were None" -- which I really liked and I looked it up a bit ago -- it was originally published under different names, the first title which I won't even share here - it's incredibly disrespectful.
    But this book is her biggest seller and it is the world's best-selling murder mystery book. Interesting!


    Oh, and I know of at least two different movie versions of "Murder on the Orient Express." I've seen neither, ha! I haven't watched a movie in a long time, actually.

    And here is another book of hers I've read -- I loved this one, too. It's a Miss Marple novel.

    Related image
      November 24, 2018 7:46 PM MST
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  • 23576
    Yes, I have read a lot of true crime events, including murder.

    For some reason, I'm drawn to reading about disasters and murders. A morbid streak, I admit.
      November 23, 2018 7:44 PM MST
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  • 976
    I too believe it's some morbid streak in myself. However, I'm drawn to reading about it and trying to figure out the motive of the monsters who commit crimes.
      November 23, 2018 7:58 PM MST
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  • 23576
    Yup, I know what you mean.
      November 23, 2018 7:59 PM MST
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  • 4624
    Psychologists who specialise in understanding criminal behaviour have interviewed tens of thousands of convicted domestic murderers. The motivations are all extremely similar. There is a certain range of types of men (and in rare cases women) who are prone to this type of behaviour.
    Easy to access their studies online. Here's one example of the results of recent studies:

    "- The man perceives the woman to be his whole world so that he feels that any separation from her entails a loss of his own identity ;

    - The man's life lacks other sources of meaning and reasons for living;

    - The man's traditional perception of masculinity, which dictates that the male has full power, honor, and control, runs counter to his dependency upon his wife, making that reliance appear evidence of his weakness and humiliation, and an affront to masculine honor.

    - The man's personal behavior is rigid and uncompromising

    - The man's prevailing beliefs about love appear to justify the sacrifice of his wife on the one hand and of persistence on the other. In this case, the ideology behind love provides the "legitimacy" for terrible crimes [in his mind].

    When all the above conditions pertain, the risk of wife murder significantly increases. The specific event that ignites the explosive barrel often revolves around the woman threatening to or actually separating from her partner."

    "In 2007 in the US, the rate of male partner violence toward their intimate female partners (age 18 or older) was 4.5 per 1,000; the rate of intimate partner homicide for females at that year was 1.07 per 100,000 female residents—that is, 420 times smaller". 

    from https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog/in-the-name-love/201409/why-do-some-men-murder-the-wives-they-love

     
    I don't think pop crime fiction and film do a good enough job of going thoroughly and honestly into the psyche of the murderer.




    This post was edited by inky at November 27, 2018 8:39 AM MST
      November 23, 2018 9:52 PM MST
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  • 1812
    No I don't... where in Colorado? I might need to move. 
      November 23, 2018 10:07 PM MST
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  • 53503

      He's in prison; you're probably safe. 

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      November 24, 2018 4:53 PM MST
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  • 976
    Frederick. No need to move, he's locked away forever. 
      November 24, 2018 6:03 PM MST
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  • 22891
    no cause its depressing
      November 24, 2018 2:10 PM MST
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  • 11102
    I followed the Willie Pickton case and the interviews he did well in prison. He killed 49 woman and his only regret was after he killed his 49th victim he went on vacation then got caught his regret was that  he got caught and wasn't able to make it an even 50 victims - hard to understand how people can think like that. Cheers and happy weekend!
      November 24, 2018 2:53 PM MST
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  • 10026
    Back to the local news NOT FOX but all the news broadcasts carried it... I did follow the O.J. Simpson trial.  I couldn't help it.  Since it is right in my neighborhood and everyone in commercial -land had no other option.  I did follow that murder.

    If I were on the jury, did he do it?

    Perhaps,  I beat you to your thought...  Guilty or not Guilty?
    That is for you to decide..

    Big winks and smiles!

    This post was edited by Merlin at November 27, 2018 8:40 AM MST
      November 24, 2018 4:14 PM MST
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  • 7792
    The O.J Simpson murder trial. I haven't followed another since.
      November 24, 2018 4:30 PM MST
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  • 53503

      I listen to a weekly podcast, "Unsolved Murders" is what it's called. They present a new case every two episodes, so one episode is Part 1, the other Part 2. Every now and then they have cases that go beyond two episodes. Their material spans the globe and the centuries, cases from a few years ago to hundreds of years ago, some with national fame for where they took place, some with worldwide fame, some very little known at all beyond their localities. 
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      November 24, 2018 4:51 PM MST
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  • 10026
    I've watched them too! :)  I try to figure them out by seeing both sides.  Some people are so grossly guilty and others, I'm not so sure...
      November 24, 2018 5:04 PM MST
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  • 53503

      "Watched them"?  These are podcasts to which I'm referring. 
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      November 24, 2018 5:05 PM MST
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  • 10026
    I must be confusing them with unsolved mysteries that are on the tv.  Some of those.  Have you ever watched those, by chance??
      November 24, 2018 5:11 PM MST
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  • 10026
    I think that was the same guy that started America Most Wanted because his kid was kidnapped.  That was the show.  Do you remember any of that history of those two??
      November 24, 2018 5:12 PM MST
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  • 53503
     
      The podcast is "Unsolved Murders" and the 1980s TV show was called "Unsolved Mysteries", it was hosted by various people over its 13-year run, most notably veteran actor Robert Stack, who had previously portrayed lawman Eliot Ness on yet another TV show, "The Untouchables" from 1959 to 1963. Okay, just a bit more: another actor who portrayed the real life Ness was Kevin Costner in the 1987 movie of the same name, "The Untouchables", a film that also starred Sean Connery.

      John Walsh started the TV show "America's Most Wanted" in response to his dealings with the law enforcement community and the criminal justice system after his young son was kidnapped and killed. 



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      November 24, 2018 5:39 PM MST
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