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Do you think it should be mandatory to show your drivers licence or photo I.D. before your allowed to vote in a USA election?

Posted - August 6, 2018

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  • 19937
    If I'm understanding you, it would seem that people who are here legally but who are not citizens would not be able to get DLs.  Why should that be?
      August 7, 2018 1:37 PM MDT
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  • 34283
    Yep, my grandfather has been dead for 10yrs and still on the voter rolls in IL. My Mother works the polls so she has seen it numerous times and reported him as deceased many times but the still have not removed him. 
      August 7, 2018 7:21 AM MDT
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  • 10642
    Yes.  However, not everyone who is eligible to vote has a DL or PID.
      August 6, 2018 1:46 PM MDT
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  • 17596
    It's time for them to get one.   Period.  If they can get to the polls, they can get to the court house for a DL or state-issued ID.  No boo hoo hooing about this!
      August 6, 2018 1:53 PM MDT
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  • 10642
    I agree wholeheartedly. 
      August 6, 2018 2:10 PM MDT
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  • 7280
    The problem lies in your first sentence:  "It's time for them to get one."

    That's a little like saying, "If the people that like to bake their own bread can't buy the flour because flour isn't available, they will just have to go to the grocery store and buy the commercially produce bread until the flour is back in stock."
      August 6, 2018 2:47 PM MDT
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  • 17596
    Silly.  People who can get to the polls can get to a court house or dmv for an ID.  Like I said, no boo hooing about it.    It's not about what you like such as flour.  If you want to vote, get an ID.  
      August 6, 2018 3:36 PM MDT
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  • 17596
    Absolutely.  I will say that I like voting by mail and for real security, mail voting would have to end.
      August 6, 2018 1:54 PM MDT
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  • 11006
    Yes. In fact, I am always surprised at how easy it is to vote. We just sign our names.
      August 6, 2018 2:29 PM MDT
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  • 19937
    A voter's registration card was issued to me when I registered to vote for the first time.  I had to prove not only who I was, but that I was a citizen.  That is what you should have to show when you go to vote and if there's any other problem with it, your driver's license or other ID to supplement.
      August 6, 2018 2:36 PM MDT
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  • 7280
    In a perfect world, I'd be OK with it.  Of course, when will such an ID be required to list your "party of affiliation" and race and then be required to be worn whenever one is out in public---sort of like the Jewish Star.

    And the commission appointed by the Trump administration found no widespread instances of voter fraud--- as Trump had suggested there had been---and disbanded.

    I guess it is actually the voters---with or without photo ID's---who are responsible for who is elected.  Hopefully, they are sufficiently aware to evaluate the claims of the candidates.

    And then there are some legitimate obstacles:

    Exceptions to Voter Identification Requirements

    Most states with strict voter identification requirements make some exceptions. Including exceptions from laws that both are and are not in place for 2016. These exceptions may include people who:

    Have religious objections to being photographed (Arkansas, Indiana, Kansas, Mississippi, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Wisconsin)

    Are indigent (Indiana, Tennessee)

    “Have a reasonable impediment” to getting an ID (South Carolina)

    Do not have an ID as a result of a recent natural disaster (Texas)

    People who are victims of domestic abuse, sexual assault or stalking and have a "confidential listing" (Wisconsin)

    Additionally, voter ID requirements generally apply to in-person voting, not to absentee ballots or mailed ballots.

    All voters, regardless of the type of verification required by the states, are subject to perjury charges if they vote under false pretenses.


    PLEASE NOTE: The information provided below and throughout this webpage should be used for general informational purposes and not as a legal reference.

    https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/voter-id.aspx
      August 6, 2018 2:42 PM MDT
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  • 22891
    probably
      August 6, 2018 2:42 PM MDT
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  • 5835
    You are suggesting that the rights of citizenship should be granted by permission of the government. That is rather dangerous, because the government has a lousy reputation when it comes to permitting rights. For example, some states used to require payment of a tax, some required passing a reading test, some had other ruses to deny the rights of blacks. Now you want to extend that loophole to cover ... agendas not yet revealed.
      August 6, 2018 3:18 PM MDT
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  • 6023
    Well ... that would require doing away with "mail in voting", which is the only way to vote in Oregon/Washington.
    Personally, I think if you're able-bodied and too lazy to get your arse to the polling station - it's probably best you don't vote.

    There was talk at one time of Oregon DL having a disclaimer that it wasn't proof if identification, for (illegals) those who couldn't prove citizenship or legal residency.  But I don't think it was ever implemented.

    I know you can get an "enhanced" Washington DL that also serves as a passport.  So you have to prove citizenship.

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    I'm getting a kick out of all the hoopla against the US census asking if someone is a legal resident.
    You know the only reason people don't want that question asked, is they are afraid Congressional representation will be based on LEGAL resident status.  Imagine!  Our federal representatives only representing citizens and legal residents!  
      August 6, 2018 3:36 PM MDT
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  • 19937
    I'm pretty sure an enhanced DL only works for Mexico and Canada.  For travel outside of those two countries, I'm pretty sure you need a passport.
      August 7, 2018 5:26 AM MDT
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  • 6023
    True ... you can only use it as a passport for Mexico, Canada, Bermuda, and the Caribbean.
    But it's the only Washington-state ID that meets the "Real ID" requirements.
      August 7, 2018 7:12 AM MDT
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  • 19937
    I just got info from my DMV about this as my license needs to be renewed.  I was going to do the Real ID or Enhanced ID, but I'm planning on moving to PA before 2020 and I don't want to have to go to DMV or pay the additional fee when I'll have to do the same when I move.
      August 7, 2018 1:31 PM MDT
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  • No, I don't think it should be. I think everyone should obtain some kind of I.D. But I don't think it should be necessary for voting. As others have said, there is absentee voting, which does not require the showing of I.D. Comparisons are often made between voting and other tasks that require I.D. but the fact is most of those tasks are privileges. Voting is not a privilege, it's a right, and that sets it apart from many other actions that require I.D. Voter I.D. laws are shown to result in lower rates of minorities voting. That is not acceptable. Other nefarious practices like closing poling places or making them inconvenient to get to are known to occur as well. Voter fraud does occur, but it's a relatively small problem and greatly exaggerated by those with an agenda. Voter suppression is a bit easier to see. 
      August 6, 2018 5:23 PM MDT
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  • 6023

    Not sure how anyone can say how big a problem "voter fraud" is.

    Both WA and OR have "motor voter" registration.
    Which means as soon as you get a DL, they register you to vote.
    And since you don't have to prove citizenship or legal residence to get a DL ... there is no way to know how many illegals are on the voter rolls.

    Then there's the issue of boxes of ballots suddenly being "found" in a "supply closet" every election, it seems.
    The media may run a quick mention of it, but it's "back page" news and difficult to find any reporting on it.
    And after the election, there is no mention of "Gee, we should find a way not to lose ballots at the next election."

    Not to mention the problem of trying to audit mail-in ballots.


      August 7, 2018 1:53 PM MDT
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  • 1305

    No, why bother as George Carlin said your government has all been long bought and paid for and as a long time entertainer ie an insider he should know these things, no one in TV, film, music, media is ignorant of the facts because if they want to get on, they have to promote the agenda,  in fact isn't the United States a corporation? Anyway, if we're getting a world parliament which is unelected just like the EU, then we are way past sovereignty. We are owned by the filthy rich and the federal bankers, the politicians the queen are all puppets, whoever controls the money controls the world.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYIC0eZYEtI

    This post was edited by kjames at August 7, 2018 7:50 AM MDT
      August 6, 2018 6:55 PM MDT
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  • 1713
    That's not already mandatory? Whenever I go to vote they make me show some kind of ID.
      August 6, 2018 10:16 PM MDT
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  • 34283
    Varies from state to state. My state also requires ID has for at least 20yrs. 
      August 7, 2018 7:24 AM MDT
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  • 2219
    Wait till the authorities pull your ID. 
      August 7, 2018 2:56 AM MDT
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  • 17596
    That would create what is known as a personal problem.  If you are prone to having it taken I suggest you keep a current passport or obtain a state ID if you want to be able to vote.  I was under the impression you are not American. This post was edited by Thriftymaid at August 7, 2018 7:50 AM MDT
      August 7, 2018 3:07 AM MDT
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  • 2219
    You're still dependent on your ID being on the system. I once had to sweat at Houston airport when they said the system didn't recognise wife's passport. Fortunately only a temporary blip. 
      August 7, 2018 9:53 AM MDT
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